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GOP presidential debate features housing issue

Perry has memory lapse, Cain defiant on sexual harrassment allegations


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Republican presidential candidates Texas Gov. Rick Perry, left, Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, and former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman laugh during a commercial break at a Republican Presidential Debate at Oakland University in Auburn Hills, Mich., Wednesday, Nov. 9, 2011.

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Once the reject issue of the 2012 debate circuit, housing seems to have secured a central place in debates from now on, as the moderators of the CNBC debate Wednesday spent an extended period grilling every Republican presidential contender on stage but one about his or her position on the economic question that hits Nevadans particularly close to home.

Mitt Romney doubled down, Newt Gingrich buttoned up, and Ron Paul went to the mat, arguing the best approach to bad mortgages was to “liquidate” them and “clear the market.”

Romney has come under the harshest fire for advocating that the market should be allowed to bottom out.

While in Las Vegas, he tempered that with a promise to look at ways a potential Romney administration could help push banks toward writing down more mortgages. But Wednesday night, it was clear he’d thrown the notion of government intervention out the window.

“Would you decide to have the federal government go out and buy all the homes in America?” he asked a moderator who challenged him, saying the market-only approach would potentially leave the country even further in the hole on housing values in a few years.

“Markets work,” Romney continued. “When you have government play its heavy hand, markets blow up and people get hurt. And the reason we have the housing crisis we have is that the federal government played too heavy a role in our markets.”

Gingrich disagreed with the fully hands-off approach in an interview with the Las Vegas Sun last month. But Wednesday night, he downplayed his recommendations for proactive government intervention, giving voice instead to how much he agreed with his market-focused colleagues.

“You want to get through to the real value of the houses as fast as you can, because they’re not going to rise in value as long as you stay trapped,” he said, saying a repeal of the Dodd-Frank financial reform bill, and changes in the rules governing short sales, could help. “But in the long run, you want the housing market to come back? The economy has to come back.”

That was pretty much the extent of Herman Cain’s answer on housing too: “You start with fixing the real problem, which is growing this economy, which is why I have put a bold solution on the table, 9-9-9.”

The real question for Cain had nothing to do with the housing though, or any other part of the economy.

It was the first time Cain took to a debate stage since reports surfaced of multiple alleged incidents of his sexually harrassing behavior toward female employees of the National Restaurant Association while he was at its helm.

“The American people deserve better than someone being tried in the court of public opinion,” he said Wednesday night, when asked if the country should elect a president with potentially serious character flaws. “For every one person that comes forward with a false accusation, there are probably, there are thousands, who would say none of that sort of activity ever came from Herman Cain.”

Other candidates declined the opportunity to take on Cain. In fact, it was an especially genteel debate — especially compared to the free-for-all fistfight that was in Las Vegas -- with the only real squabbles of the night taking place between Gingrich and CNBC moderator Maria Bartiromo, who snapped back at Gingrich every time he raised one of his now-standard criticisms of the phrasing of questions and the format of the debates.

But one candidate seemed to have gotten a bit too relaxed in the three weeks since the Las Vegas fight night — the longest stretch there been between debates in a while — and if the next polls follow the pundits’ predictions, it may have cost him his presidential dreams.

Rick Perry should have had his strongest moment of the debate when he leaped forward to tout his flat-tax plan.

“It balances the budget in 2020, it does the things to the regulatory climate that have to happen, and I will tell you,” he said, turning to Ron Paul, “it’s three agencies of government when I get there that are gone. Commerce, education, and then um, what’s the third one there, let’s see. Commerce, edication, and uh, the uh...”

His memory lapse continued for almost 45 seconds. Colleagues suggested the Environmental Protection Agency — but that wasn’t it. Moderators finally questioned whether Perry truly couldn’t name the third agency — he struggled once more, and finally gave up with a “let’s see, I can’t, the third one I can’t. Oops.”

The missing Department — as Perry would triumphantly remind the audience 15 minutes later when the question cycle came around to him again — was Energy, and his memory lapse ironic, given that energy was the only area of the economy Perry ever focused on when discussing how to bring about a jobs recovery, before he got this flat tax worked out, that is.

The gaffe had pundits predicting the death of his presidential aspirations within moments of the debate ending.

As far as Nevada’s concerned, if enough people see the clip, it may pitch him over the edge.

Despite having the support of Gov. Brian Sandoval and the strength of one of Nevada’s most seasoned political operatives heading up his local organization, Perry never could get much traction in the Silver State.

In October, two polls showed Perry running a distinct fifth in the GOP field of eight main candidates. The most recent Democratic poll in Nevada put his local following at just 6 percent, behind Romney (29 percent), Cain (28 percent), Gingrich (15 percent), and Paul (7 percent). The most recent Republican poll put him marginally lower, at 5 percent behind Romney’s 38 percent, Cain’s 26 percent, Gingrich’s 16 percent and Paul’s 7 percent.

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  1. Dear Gov. Sandoval: Next time can you please endorse someone who can remember his own platform? Birds of a feather...

  2. Yes, Rick Perry is gonna CUT...

    Just as soon as he remembers what the heck it is, IT'S GONE! Mark my words! It's GONE! (Dag-nabbit...what WAS IT?) Just as soon as I remember what it! I'm takin' a KNIFE to it, I tell ya!

  3. @acejoker...

    "After tonight's successful debate and his answer that put the liberal questioners in their place Mr Cain has indeed improved his image and chances of winning the nomination."

    Thanks, Ace...
    Funny stuff.
    Does Santa really come down the chimney, or is that an old wives' tale?

  4. I've seen high school debates with more intelligence and maturity. Start calling these 'debates' what they are, comedy hour.

  5. Train wreck! Hard to look away.......... None of those folks should be taken seriously.

    And SandOval - When you as Governor, endorse someone like Perry, you make all Nevadans look as dull minded as you. Perry isn't any more qualified to be a governor than you are.

  6. acejocker, You must be a Cain supporter the way you look down on women.

  7. Jim Reid

    Your comment that women should not have the right to vote demonstrates what a angry, bitter little man that you are. Who do you think you are? Get off your high horse and rejoin reality if you can.

  8. <...Lynn and Judy are proof women should have never been given the vote. Liberal comments should never be taken seriously...>

    Hey Sweet Pea - YOU have the nerve to say dipstick and the other liberals make silly remarks?????

    That WHOLE comment of yours, honey, is the silliest and most assinine dribble I have ever seen posted...just about ANYWHERE!!!

    Gosh, I hope you're not married or have anything to do with women.

  9. Jim Reid

    You are the comic relief with you ignorant condescending attitude as demonstrated by you on a daily basis. You started with claiming the Republican debate as a great debate but in reality besides mitt The rest of those candidates could not debate themselves out of a wet paper bag. Then you state Cain is a superior candidate (non stop laughter) and true to your programming when confronted about the insanity of your comments you state women should not be able to vote. Jim you should stick with your right wing talking points as to when you deviate from them you show what a angry bitter little man you are. By the way if you failed to observe the vote in Arizona's recall election more proof the tea party's day are numbered.

  10. Jim Reid

    Don't flatter yourself I do not need to do anything to expose you for what you are. Your own words do all the work for me. How about you try to support your argument with facts such as prove me wrong that sal Russo is not a organizing force behind the tea party in California. Or try to spin Arizona's top tea party figure being recalled by moderate Republicans and Democrats.