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Nevada Republicans laud Ryan as perfect complement to Romney

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Republican vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan addresses the Republican National Convention in Tampa, Fla., on Wednesday, Aug. 29, 2012.

On the opening day of their national convention, Republicans genuflected before the private sector, praising the ingenuity and leadership skills of the country’s business men and women — the skills Republicans believe make Mitt Romney presidential material.

But Wednesday, they turned to a man who has spent almost his entire career in Washington, aiming to be the one to dismantle the policies of President Barack Obama’s administration and replace them with conservative principles aimed at fixing the economy.

For many Republicans, it isn’t difficult for them to reconcile their general antipathy for so-called “career politicians” with their enthusiastic support of Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan.

Ryan is the man with the intellectual chops and economic policy heft to complement Romney’s business background, they say.

“Mitt Romney is the businessman who can do everything that needs to be done,” said Wes Rice, a delegate from Douglas County. “Paul Ryan is someone who is the financial expert who’s needed to undo what’s been done. He’s an idea guy. He’s a good conservative.

“Some might view Mitt Romney as middle of the road, and Paul Ryan can energize the conservative base.”

The fact that Ryan has been in Congress since age 28 also gives him the insider status to help Romney push his agenda, Rice argued.

“He needs someone who’s been in the backroom, who knows where the deals are made, who knows Capitol Hill,” Rice said.

Indeed, where Romney’s broad policy platforms have yet to be fleshed out in significant detail, Ryan’s proposals — particularly his budget plan — have already been marked up as legislation that’s been vetted by the Congressional Budget Office.

In his speech to the Republican National Convention, Ryan sought not only to demonstrate his policy adroitness, but to put it up as an alternative to what he described as Obama’s empty rhetoric.

“The present administration has made its choices,” Ryan said. “And Mitt Romney and I have made ours: Before the math and the momentum overwhelm us all, we are going to solve this nation’s economic problems.

“And I’m going to level with you: We don’t have that much time. But if we are serious, and smart, and we lead, we can do this.”

But Ryan’s appeal to Republicans goes beyond his policy bona fides, according to delegates in Tampa.

Nevada delegate Kim Bacchus, who grew up in Wisconsin, was effusive in her praise of Ryan.

“Paul Ryan is the salt of the earth,” she said. “He was taught the basics of hard work, that you have to earn your way through everything. In Wisconsin, that’s how I grew up. He knows you work hard enough, you keep your nose clean, you go to church, you give generously to your community and you will succeed.

“He’s an amazing example of the future of the Republican Party.”

And if the brains, the conservative cred and the midwestern upbringing aren’t enough, Ryan’s got one more thing going for him.

At least as far as Serena Goldstock of Las Vegas is concerned: “He’s hot as heck in person.”

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  1. The patron saint of Aynrandistan couldn't stop lying last night.

    While he moralized about the deficit and debt, he failed to take responsibility for being a blank check for debt-financed entitlement expansion, debt-financed wars and debt-financed tax cuts when he couldn't say no to the Bush administration.

    When he talked about the debt loaded on his children and his children's children, he failed to take responsibility for the TRILLIONS in debt he voted for.

    His attacks were a master class in hypocrisy, attacking Obama for not embracing the debt commission that Ryan himself voted against.

    Low-information voters obviously gobbled that speech up. Those of us who know his record saw right through his desperate and hypocritical attacks.

  2. I wonder what it would have taken for Nevada Republicans to decide Ryan WASN'T the perfect complement to Mittens Romney?

  3. In other words such a clumsy and obvious attempt at manipulation of the masses should have been rejected as unfit to even print by a RESPONSIBLE press. Too bad we don't have such a thing.

  4. JeffFromVegas writes, ""Obama closed a GM plant in Janesville", he snarled, not mentioning that the time-traveling plant had shuttered before Barack Obama ever entered the White House."

    Ryan never said that Obama closed the plant. In fact, he never even said that Obama broke a promise to keep the plant open.

    What he said was the following:

    "President Barack Obama came to office during an economic crisis, as he has reminded us a time or two. Those were very tough days, and any fair measure of his record has to take that into account. My home state voted for President Obama. When he talked about change, many people liked the sound of it, especially in Janesville, where we were about to lose a major factory.

    "A lot of guys I went to high school with worked at that GM plant. Right there at that plant, candidate Obama said: "I believe that if our government is there to support you " this plant will be here for another hundred years." That's what he said in 2008.

    "Well, as it turned out, that plant didn't last another year. It is locked up and empty to this day. And that's how it is in so many towns today, where the recovery that was promised is nowhere in sight.

    It is clear that Ryan never said that Obama closed the plant, and even indicated that the plant was already scheduled to close when he said, "... where we were about to lose a major factory".

    Ryan was saying that Obama promised a recovery that hasn't happened.

    Ryan's statement also strongly implied that if Obama indeed made an effort to re-open the plant, he failed.

  5. Paul Ryan apologists may want to believe otherwise, but even Fox News admits how dishonest Paul Ryan was last night:

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/08/3...

    "On the other hand, to anyone paying the slightest bit of attention to facts, Ryan's speech was an apparent attempt to set the world record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped into a single political speech. On this measure, while it was Romney who ran the Olympics, Ryan earned the gold."

  6. Kevin Sandoval writes, "Paul Ryan apologists may want to believe otherwise, but even Fox News admits how dishonest Paul Ryan was last night ..."

    While that piece is published on the Fox News site, it is in the opinion section, and was written by Sally Kohn, a Fox News contributor who was hired to present the view of the far left (I believe that she is to the left of Juan Williams, and may be in Bob Beckel territory).

    It is a testament to the balance of FNC that they have a fairly large stable of left-wing contributors on the payroll and give them free access to the opinion section of the site, despite how wrong they often are.

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  8. JeffFromVegas,

    Thank you for the welcome, but I've been commenting on this site since 2010, though I only made the commitment to become a trusted commenter a few weeks ago.

    I provided the entire text of Ryan's speech where he discussed the Janesville plant. Please show me where in Ryan's statement he claimed that Obama made a promise to keep the plant open.

    BTW, it didn't slip past me that you shifted your argument from claiming that Ryan said that Obama closed the plant to whether or not Ryan's claim about Obama's promise of economic recovery applied to the economy as a whole, or to only the Janesville plant.

    I say that it was the former, and that any statement of Obama's regarding an effort to retool the Janesville plant as so far resulted in failure.

    BTW, here is what Obama said in June, 2008 about the imminent closure of the Janesville plant:

    "As president, I will lead an effort to retool plants like the GM facility in Janesville so we can build the fuel-efficient cars of tomorrow and create good-paying jobs in Wisconsin and all across America."

    He may indeed have led an effort to get GM to retool and reopen the Janesville plant, but as the plant remains closed to this day, he obviously failed at that effort.

  9. JeffFromVegas,

    The author of that "fact check" piece wrote, "He appeared to fault Mr. Obama for the closing of the plant ...".

    "Appeared" is the operative (weasel) word. Ryan never stated that Obama was responsible for closing the plant. You, Michael Cooper (the author of the NYT piece,) and other "fact checkers" apparently think you all can read Ryan's mind, and discern his true meaning.

    I hate to break it to you, but you can't.

    Regarding Ryan's supposed lie about the decision to close the plant and the letter indicating he, in your words, "... knows he was LYING", Ryan clearly stated in his speech: "... where we were about to lose a major factory."

    He did not say, "Where, UNKNOWN TO US, we were about to lose a major factory.", yet that is how you and Mr. Cooper appear to be interpreting it.

    What part of the statement in Ryan's speech doesn't agree with the letter on Ryan's House web site?

  10. Det Munch, 11:48: Blonde hair (ends in e for male) and blond hair in women? My father carried significant native American dna, he had dark to black hair.--slight grey at temples in his 70's, not bald. His mother never used hair dye and remained very dark haired--into late 90's. Some of my siblings have dark to black hair. I and a sister are blonds, sort of dark blond to light brunette which bleaches out easily. And there is no question that he was my father--no need to explain details here. My mother is brunette although her father was very Nordic blonde.

  11. Ryan is right: we must revive the AMERICAN DREAM for AMERICANS. We must prioritize the needs of our economy and Americans over the wants of whining dependent non-working able-bodied adults and non-Americans.

  12. iwonder: While I'm no expert on Mormonism, it is rather widespread knowledge that "they" are Christian and believe the Bible is the beginning, not the end. The Book of Mormon is a SEQUEL.

  13. JeffFromVegas,

    Sorry, but it is you who is denying the black and white truths of Ryan's statement about Janesville and interpreting them to suit your agenda.

    Regarding your statement that the GM bailout came too late for Janesville, "lateness" is irrelevant.

    The GM bailout occurred on or about June 1, 2009. As of that date, President Obama's administration acquired unprecedented ability to control the inner workings of the company, as did the UAW Retiree Trust that controlled nearly 18% of the stock.

    Yet the plant remains closed to this day.

    Obama apparently failed in his effort to get the plant retooled and reopened "for the next 100 years".

    That is the truth.

  14. JeffFromVegas,

    One last point:

    It was then Candidate Obama who spoke the words in Janesville, WI about retooling and reopening the Janesville plant, and one would think that because he made the statement there, that he would have moved Heaven and Earth to achieve this goal, because then it would have been an example of his success, rather than failure.

    But it was apparently just words.

    Ironically, he also made the following statement in Wisconsin in early 2008:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgMcht-EW...

  15. Rep. Ryan's speech was deceiving and misleading. I was looking to hear a young congressman be honest with the millions who were watching last night.

    Being an independent voter, I have concluded after seeing Ryan and hearing his speech that the Republicans are campaigning on lies.

  16. The rhetorical bankruptcy of the GOP on display for all to see.

    On the one hand, they claim the government cannot create jobs, nor help industry. Government needs to "know it's place" and "get out of the way." It can't "pick winners and losers."

    On the other, they say that the government didn't do enough to save a plant which was ordered closed under the Bush administration.

    One one hand they lambaste the Obama administration for "controlling" and "taking over" a private company. They attack when Obama "fired" Fritz Henderson.

    On the other: why didn't they do anything to control the company?

    On the one hand they claim that bailouts and stimulus promote failure, destroy our country with more debt, and are morally wrong.

    On the other, they vote for bailouts and write demands for stimulus cash, like Paul Ryan.

    Cognitive dissonance or attack without regard to consistency? Either way: damned if you do, damned if you don't.

    All this from the party whose convention is built upon an out-of-context quote.

  17. "Obama apparently failed in his effort to get the plant retooled and reopened "for the next 100 years"."

    Based on what, exactly?

    Reno_Dave says words matter, yet Obama never promised to keep the plant open. If you want to play that rhetorical game, then Dave's holding Obama to words he never said.

  18. Ryan is just another Joe McCarthy, bigot, ignorant LIAR. Just substitute Socialism for Communism and Ryan's message is the same BS.

  19. JeffFromVegas and ksand99,

    I'll address both of your posts in this single one, just because I can.

    Jeff, you wrote: "Where is Ryan's letter to Obama asking him (As you say -- the shadow CEO of GM) to keep open the Janesville plant?"

    "I don't blame Ryan or Obama for this plant closing."

    I have no idea where you got the idea that there was some letter from Ryan to Obama. I was referring to the letter you posted to GM CEO Wagoner, signed by Ryan.

    I don't blame Obama for the closure of the Janesville plant, and neither does Ryan.

    ksand99, you wrote:

    "Reno_Dave says words matter, yet Obama never promised to keep the plant open. If you want to play that rhetorical game, then Dave's holding Obama to words he never said."

    On Feb 13, 2008, in a speech at the Janesville plant, Candidate Obama stated, "We need to maintain our competitive edge in a global by ensuring that plants like this one stay open for another hundred years, and shuttered factories re-open as new industries that promise new jobs."

    Then, in Oct 2008, when it was found that the plant would shut down sooner than expected, Obama went back to Janesville and said the following:

    "As president, I will lead an effort to retool plants like the GM facility in Janesville so we can build the fuel-efficient cars of tomorrow and create good-paying jobs in Wisconsin and all across America."

    Both quotes may be found at the following link:

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/...

    Twice Obama said he would do things that would enable the plant to reopen, and yet it hasn't, because Obama's policies haven't enabled the kind of recovery that would allow Janesville, and other plants like it, to reopen.

    And that was Ryan's point.

  20. The impression left with people who don't pick words apart down to a microbe was that Ryan was saying Obama didn't keep his word.

    That was the point of the statement, not clarifying detail, not fact, only the delivery of an intentional impression. It is part of the game.

    Why didn't Bain Capital intervene and save the plant in Janesville? They could have done a leveraged buyout of that one plant. Surely they could have made a real hefty profit from management fees before it got closed?

    Then we could be singing "Put the Blame on Bain, Boys!"

  21. Dave says words matter, and cites two quotes from Obama.

    Unfortunately, neither quote is a promise to reopen the Janesville plant. Specifically, Obama promised to help plants "like" the Janesville plant.

    Words matter.

    Ryan's point is that Obama had broken a promise... a promise that, with Doug's help, we've found doesn't actually exist.

    Thanks for the help, Doug.