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Letter to the editor:

Who needs federal programs, anyway?

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It’s admirable that Nevadan Steve Vaughan has launched his drive for states to secede from the union, and it makes perfect sense for citizens to support his position and sign his petition. Who wouldn’t want the freedom to fend for themselves exempt from taxation and government overreach?

The federal government provides or subsidizes so many unnecessary services such as Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Obamacare, veterans’ benefits, aid to education and dependent children, disaster relief, the federal highway system, the National Guard, the U.S. military, unemployment compensation, food stamps, free emergency health care, and myriad agencies.

In addition, there would be no need to vote because you would have no president, Congress, Senate, federal courts, judges or prisons. You would finally be totally free to live as you like, totally independent of government control and/or safeguards to your civil liberties. This must be exactly what the Tea Party has been demanding for the past few years when its members decided to take their country back — to the 18th century.

Oh, for the good old days without an interstate highway system, railroads or municipal airports. The Pony Express looks pretty good, but no; that was a federal program! Oh well, enjoy your freedom! And don’t forget to get your passport — you’ll need it to visit America.

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  1. I don't know what's more laughable: The people who seek secession or those who impugn them. If the Sons of Liberty made peace with the King of England over taxation without representation, rather than revolt and shed blood, we would not have the America we have today. It's called freedom and liberty. It applies to all not just those who we agree with.

    CarmineD

  2. The government is a cash eating out of control mnonster. It generates over a trillion dollars more each year in new debt and gross debt of more than 16 trillion. Yes we need a government, just much less of it.We are broke and nothing is being done to address the problem.Apparently the letter writer hasn't received the message. She is out of control like the feds.

  3. ""the Sons of Liberty" Why I'll huff and I'll puff and I will blow down your self created aura of pomposity."

    The King of England and his mercenaries tried. They lost. Sons of Liberty and their descendants are still standing.

    Know your history first.

    CarmineD

  4. Maybe we're being too hasty in knocking this secession idea. Perhaps these are some folks we wouldn't miss too much. I think I'll start a list. For brevity, I'll call it my "A" List. Anyone caring to do the same is free use the same name, substituting whatever adjective beginning with the letter "A" that they think appropriate.

    For now, I won't reveal my selection for the letter "A", but I'll give you a hint. Donald Trump is definitely an A Lister. :-)

  5. The "natural" way of life is to do for yourself or die. Government modified this, at first to provide for DEFENSE and evolved into various "functions" to ensure the integrity and continuation of the "country" and business / economies. We have since devolved into the "nanny state" where we reward those who won't for sitting on dead center. We reward people to have kids INSTEAD of allowing the natural right of every person to do for her/himself. We tax, confiscate, devalue so many people to such an extent that they are unable to save for retirement, have an adequate emergency fund, do for their own kids, buy new cars (scratch "stimulate" the economy and make it ALLOW the economy to FUNCTION.) With so much government interference, our economy cannot function well and at times doesn't function adequately to maintain things. At these times, the government (federal reserve, POTUS, Congress) steps in and further messes things up. IF we want to right things, we must make many steps in many directions to allow people, our economy, AND our government to perform their specific ESSENTIAL functions. OK, we can't just stop everything on a dime. But we HAVE TO start moving everything in the right direction. Sure it's gonna hurt some, some people right away, other people later. But the pain is CAUSED by people receiving / taking things to which they are NOT entitled.

  6. @Ref You can always identify the puffed-up smarty-pants, they always big words and sometimes foreign words to describe stuff. "Reductio ad absurdum" can also be known simply as satire, a more apt description in the case of this letter.

  7. Once again, as is so often the case, a leftist makes up "facts" to suit the agenda. The Pony Express was not a federal program. April 3, 1860 was the date the Pony Express began operating. The venture was funded by a freight firm, Russell, Majors and Waddell, who promised delivery of the mails in 10 days from St. Joseph, MO. to Sacramento, CA. Until then, letters mailed to California took six to eight weeks for delivery. The cost was $5 per ounce and the mail was sent out twice a day. The Pony Express proved to be a financial failure and only 18 months after it began ceased operations. The shutdown came a few days after the telegraph was completed across the Western states and territories in October of 1861 and, with its ability to transmit information almost instantaneously across the country, eliminated one very important reason for the Pony Express' existence. So much for Kremsers knowledge of history and the reliability of her assertions. Remember, as I've told you before - do not trust the leftists for truth. They are incapable of it. Fudging the facts comes as naturally to leftists as does breathing to the rest of us.

  8. It is unnecessary to be a well educated or a knowledgeable person to understand that Nevada will not secede. You'd have to be absent the frontal lobes of your brain not to realize this. Anyone advocating this must surely be aware that it is a waste of time and can only be a symbolic gesture. A blind person could see through this senseless (and certainly not original) publicity stunt. Steve Vaughan has gotten his name out to all the wing nuts and should be congratulated. But now it's time to stop playing "pretend politician" and focus on more pressing issues.

  9. Mr Freeman writes,"Economic freedom and a culture of work leads to prosperity". The majority of the people in the country can't come up with a grand.You need a level playing field. Way too much corruption and special interest meddling for the average family to even dream about PROSPERITY.

    The average buys lottery tickets.
    http://money.cnn.com/2011/08/10/pf/emerg...

  10. Many of the states talking secession get vast amounts of money from the federal government to cover programs like Medicaid. Without that federal money they would be broke by happy hour.

  11. I think the illegals love it here. It's the Americans that were born here that whine constantly.

  12. renorobert, very good post Dec. 3, 2012 6:10 p.m

    However, You seem to indirectly pose a question. Are satisfied with the responses to your post.

  13. RE-POST

    renorobert, very good post Dec. 3, 2012 6:10 p.m

    However, You seem to indirectly pose a question. Are "you" satisfied with the responses to your post?

  14. "...there would be no need to vote because you would have no president, Congress, Senate, federal courts, judges or prisons. You would finally be totally free to live as you like, totally independent of government control and/or safeguards to your civil liberties."

    Kremser -- without the president, etc., we might actually be better off. You should pay attention -- it's government that's the biggest danger to our civil liberties.

    "It's called freedom and liberty."

    CarmineD -- good post!

    "The government is a cash eating out of control mnonster [sic]."

    Houstonjac -- you're wrong. Government is a BLOATED cash-eating out-of-control monster. And it sends bullies with badges after us. So there

    "We tax, confiscate, devalue so many people to such an extent that they are unable to save for retirement, have an adequate emergency fund, do for their own kids....."

    Roslenda -- another good post

    Funny none of you mentioned the Nevada Constitution which actually forbids secession. Seems most if not all of you are ignorant of the fact each state is its own sovereign separate from the feds.

    "This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -- Abraham Lincoln, first inaugural address, 1861

  15. @y RefNV tells us, "The Tea Party movement is a movement that advocates adherence to the United States Constitution, reducing U.S. government spending and taxes," So that's why they support Voter ID laws that clearly violate the U.S. Constitution, cost tens of millions of dollars to implement in order to stop an activity that isn't happening. It's time for my fellow Republicans to disavow themselves from these nut-bags, or mark my word we will be swearing in Hillary Clinton in January, 2017.

    The tea party is an infection destroying the conservative movement from within.