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E. J. Dionne tries to use guilt to get Republicans to go along with gun laws. In “Will the GOP block background checks” he writes, “The gun lobby seems to want the rest of the world to look upon the United States of America as a nation so crazed about guns ...”

I don’t give a flip what the rest of the world thinks about us! Most of them would be speaking a language other than their own if not for us. I take zero responsibility for the Adam Lanzas and Jared Loughners of this world.

Dionne seems to think because I chose to exercise my Second Amendment rights, I am aligned with murderers. If that were true, then everyone who owns a car is aligned with the drunken driver who kills innocents.

I have owned guns for more than 45 years, I have killed no one with them and they have killed no one. Lastly, none of the “common sense” gun laws now being discussed would have stopped either of these sick individuals, and neither would limiting my Constitutional rights.

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  1. "I take zero responsibility for the Adam Lanzas and Jared Loughners of this world."

    No one asked you to take responsibility but your indifference is way less than admirable. Your version of your Second Amendment rights is no more important than the rights of gun crime victims to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."

    Your refusal to be part of any solution only makes you part of the problem.

  2. Jim and Jeff make good points on this issue. I happen to believe that background checks on gun purchases will have little to no effect on the Adam Lanza's of the world, but they probably would assist law enforcement in solving more routine gun crimes, just like vehicle registration assists in accident investigations.

    I also understand the worry of some that laws like this are a first step toward taking guns away, and for some people, they are correct. However, that's why we live in a representative democracy; so we have some control over abuses of rights.

    Michael

  3. It's isn't the Republicans who are blocking President Obama's January 2013 talking points on needed gun controls. It's the Democrats. Especially the ones in red states up for reelection in 2014. The President's gun control plan is bust in Congress, thank you Senator Reid-sorry Senator Feinstein, and the President has no one to blame except the Democrats, his own party for lack of support.

    Carmine D

  4. Of course Republicans are blocking gun control. At least 3 Republican senators stated they would filibuster any attempt to pass a law.

    I'm a gun owner and understand we need registration of these weapons to keep them out of the hands of criminals and mentally unstable people. In several parts of the country buyers can purchase weapons and ammunition in bulk, cross state lines to states with strict laws, and deal these weapons right from the trunk of their car.

    The author ignores the first few words of the 2nd Amendment, "a well regulated militia". Those believing the gov't. will track you ignore the fact that they already track what you do through your social security number.

  5. This will be a fight to the finish. The liberals who are trying to restrict gun owner rights, insisting on gun bans and ammo restrictions and federal background checks and gun registration are trying to undermine the constitutional rights of the itizens. These efforts must be opposed and defeated Anything that can be done to keep the government out of the gun control business must be done. Private gun ownership must not fall under the control of government. One of the reasons that the right to bear arms is a constitutional right is that citizens must be able to rise up and defend themselves against a tyrannical government. No wonder that those in power are pushing for more gun controls. Obama is misleading when he states that the government and the People are always the same. One of the reasons that Obama is fighting as hard as he is for gun controls is to insure that the government will always have the upper hand in in the event of an armed struggle of the citizens against the government. The pot is boiling as citizens are buying guns and ammunition in record quantities. Homeland Security is buying enormous quantities of ammunitiomn and armored vehicles. Once in power governments who are tyrannical will do anything to retain that power--as an example one has to look only at Syria. America is in a state of crisis. Foolish policies are in place under the Obama administration, and the rights of the people are being undermined by excessive executive controls. Giving in to more gun controls is a dangerous thing. Liberals have had too much koolaid to drink to see the light.

  6. Vernos:

    The President's gun control bill was DOA in the Senate by Democrats [Reid versus Feinstein]. The threat of a filibuster by the GOP is to stick the President's nose in the Democrats' division and President's loss. That's politics. If the situation were reversed and it was the GOP, the Democrats would do the same.

    Carmine D

  7. With the 30,000 plus gun shot death's each year in our country.What is it that we should or could do to lower the amount of gun death's that happen each year in the USA,anybody?

  8. HoustonJac - "federal background checks and gun registration are trying to undermine the constitutional rights of the citizens."

    Nonsense, no one lost their Constitutional rights when gun laws were passed:

    1934 National Firearms Act
    1938 Federal Firearms Act
    1968 Gun Control Act
    1986 Law Enforcement Officers Protection Act
    1990 Crime Control Act
    1994 Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act
    1994 Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act

    You people are buying into the paranoidal BS issued by Wayne LaPierre and others. We are seeing "I was for, before I was against" because Obama put it out in front after Sandy Hook. As a matter of fact, already the conspiracy whack jobs are saying the shooting was staged by Obama so he can enact nazi control of the government. Just yesterday I heard David Lory VanderBeek, who ran for governor of Nevada, say Obama was going to fake his own assassination so he could confiscate your weapons.

    The question needs to be asked. Why are many so-called conservatives paranoid and fearful of imaginery and manufactured enemies?

  9. Well said, Robert. I couldn't agree with you more.

  10. "Dionne seems to think because I chose to exercise my Second Amendment rights, I am aligned with murderers. If that were true, then everyone who owns a car is aligned with the drunken driver who kills innocents."

    Gardner -- excellent letter! Criminal actions like those you referred to are not in any way protected freedoms. Your critics here keep missing that point, no?

    "No one asked you to take responsibility but your indifference is way less than admirable..."

    pisces -- not only did you miss the point, your post is quite lame. You also show a profound ignorance of the Bill of Rights. It protects liberties already in existence then, it doesn't create them, nor the attendent rights.

    "I think that all the gun owners that whine about the "rights" being violated by filling out a form..."

    Jeff -- you're also showing a lot of ignorance about what it means to be a citizen. It's never a good step for government to chill the exercise of personal freedoms by forcing us to pre-qualify for them.

    "I happen to believe that background checks on gun purchases will have little to no effect on the Adam Lanza's of the world, but they probably would assist law enforcement in solving more routine gun crimes..."

    wtplv -- another poster who apparently believes the Bill of Rights must be compromised to make the cops' jobs easier. Far too many abuses happen because of such compromises -- think of that, and the Constitutional prohibition against unreasonable searches and seizures next time you enter your local courthouse.

    "With the 30,000 plus gun shot death's each year in our country.What is it that we should or could do to lower the amount of gun death's that happen each year in the USA,anybody?"

    samspeaks -- you need to qualify your question first, like how many of those deaths were caused by shooters defending themselves? Or by law enforcement, whether right or wrong?

    "Nonsense, no one lost their Constitutional rights when gun laws were passed..."

    VernosB -- yes, we all did. Each generation is born with fewer liberties than its parents. Evidently you haven't been paying attention to how it and so many others have been whittled down to the point of being meaningless.

    "If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government, and which against the usurpations of the national rulers, may be exerted with infinitely better prospect of success than against those of the rulers of an individual state...The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system, without resource; except in their courage and despair. The usurpers, clothed with the forms of legal authority, can too often crush the opposition in embryo." - Hamilton, Federalist No. 29

  11. Leftists don't get it or, perhaps, don't want to. Chopping away at the Bill of Rights will not stop with "gun control." Those in Washington DC, Carson City, Clark County and local municipalities are avid seekers of more power to rule and regulate with each passing day. "It's for the good of the people," is the glib response they give to every rule, regulation, statute or law they propose. They all seem to want to emulate the screwball Michael Bloomberg of New York City who thinks he was elected Emperor or King instead of simply a mayor. Instead of us deciding our futures, some venal politician is raring to do it for us. The General told the Nazi'z at the Battle of the Bulge, "Nuts!" I say to the politicos" "Go to Hell!"

  12. So far, all I've heard from the pro-gun crowd is "We can't do that!" "That won't work!" "Don't you dare touch my guns!" I'M not responsible! I take care of MY guns!" As well as liberal doses of: Nazis! Fascists! Socialists! Hitler!

    Just exactly when is the pro-gun crowd going to accept the fact that guns are being used to perform just exactly the purpose they were originally for: to kill people?

    Quite commonly, there is the whine that "We don't enforce the laws on the books! Lets begin doing that!" Excellent idea. However, since most are the equivalent of misdemeanors, our criminal justice system isn't funded to give them the attention of felonies. Is the pro-gun crowd willing to upgrade things like the crime of lying on an application? How about increasing the financing for the criminal justice system? Perhaps funding much more staffing of gun-crime investigators? Or adding additional courts and prosecutors specifically to handle gun crimes? ...didn't think so...

    When will ONE of the pro-gun crowd recognize the position of the anti-gun violence crowd and propose reasonable, effective means to halt the violence once and for all? You don't like our ideas? Fine. Don't just stand there spewing your hatred and fear, actually DO SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE!!

  13. "Just exactly when is the pro-gun crowd going to accept the fact that guns are being used to perform just exactly the purpose they were originally for: to kill people?"

    renorobert -- about as exactly when the anti-gun crowd accepts the fact that guns are only tools. It's the hand aiming the weapon and the finger pulling the trigger that is to blame. And yes it's sometimes necessary to kill other people -- that being a primary purpose of why government is creating a monopoly on violence.

    "...government security is just another kind of violence." -- Rep. Ron Paul today @ http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2012/dec...

  14. Mr. Gardener, you are confusing yourself with Robinson Cursoe. You are not on an island in the Pacific Ocean. Wake up! Income taxes are just around the corner.

  15. "Adam would not have had access to his mother's
    assault rifle, PERIOD!, because his mother would
    not have been able to buy an assault rifle."

    Really? Assault rifles are not sold illegally? Other guns, if assault weapons were banned as they were for 10 years, are not sold legally? Hand guns, which kill more people than any other type of guns, are not sold legally?

    Teamster: You and the others who think and sound like you are losing the gun debate based on the facts.

    Carmine D

  16. "Over Benghazi, you want to lynch Obama, over this, yawn, another day at the office."

    After the Clinton fiasco before the House and Senate Committees in January, I posted here that the public would petition Congress for a special and/or select committee to investigate Benghazi. What happened?

    Carmine D

  17. In Benghazi, four Americans were killed. In Iraq, about 4490 American soldiers were killed and anywhere between 110,000 to 500,000 civilians, Iraq and US.

    Where was the inquiry into Iraq? Not one reason for the invasion has ever shown to exist.

    Where is the Right to Life crowd? A battlefield death is simply another late term abortion. Instead of allowing these soldiers to grow to full term, i.e. old age, their maturation was cut short and for no reason. Where was the inquiry into reasons for the Iraq war? Why did Benghazi create such an uproar?

  18. KillerB (11:14 a.m.)Your statement that "...guns are only tools..." is undeniable true. However they are a tool that was originally devised, and continuously improved ever since, for only purpose - TO KILL
    PEOPLE!

    You are approximately correct when you say "It's the hand aiming the weapon and the finger pulling the trigger that is to blame." More correctly, it's the mind activating the hand to pick up and point that tool and uses it for its designed purpose that is to blame.

    The movement to end gun violence is committed to denying that mind the ability to cause a hand to pick up a weapon designed to kill people. There are a variety of ways to accomplish that: background checks of the stability of that mind; limiting the types of such killing tools that can be picked up; limiting the types and quantities of ammunition to use in that killing tool are a few.

    If all you can do is to cry about why we can't POSSIBLY implement the controls that have been proposed, if you are incapable of devising controls we CAN implement, you are not a solution, you are a significant part of the problem.

  19. "In Benghazi, four Americans were killed. In Iraq, about 4490 American soldiers were killed and anywhere between 110,000 to 500,000 civilians, Iraq and US."

    Benghazi was a terrorist attack and murders of 4 innocent American civilians on U.S. government land. Iraq was a war approved and agreed to by all the nations involved.

    Carmine D

  20. "you will always be on the losing side."

    Being on the losing side doesn't matter if it's the right side.

    Carmine D