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Letter to the editor:

Freeloaders are the majority now

A recent letter to the Sun, “Why the Tea Party objects to Obama” asks the rhetorical questions “Don’t we all want a financially strong country and a Congress that has our best interests at heart …” and “Don’t we want to see everyone succeed according to their own abilities and desires, free from controls that stifle progress and dreams?”

Unfortunately, the answer to these questions is an emphatic “no.” It appears that a rapidly decreasing minority of voters in this country wants these things, otherwise recent elections would have had very different results.

Although this letter was essentially correct about why some people object to President Barack Obama, it is not true that his history was unknown. Even before the 2008 election, let alone that of 2012, a lot was known about Obama in spite of his dreadful lack of experience and lack of qualifications. Anyone who paid attention knew about Obama’s political background.

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  1. The majority of voters elected Obama which gives an incredible insight into the deteriorating values and declining moral direction of the nation. There was plenty of information available regarding Obama's values, past associations and his lack of experience to lead the nation. This was no secret. It is now evident from the defense by liberals of most of the recent scandals under Obama's watch that they will do anything possible to protect their choice even if it means allowing this country to slide into the gutter. We have become to a large extent a nation on the brink of its own decline.

  2. The writer addresses the questions "Don't we all want a financially strong country and a Congress that has our best interests at heart "" and "Don't we want to see everyone succeed according to their own abilities and desires...?"

    Of course we do and the result of the elections are our collective judgement on who best will deliver what we want. The writer, however, is dissatisfied with that judgement and opines we are voting for unnamed unidentified "controls that stifle progress and dreams".

    We can have different perceptions and opinions but no one gets to be "right" by making others "wrong".

  3. President Obama could be the worse president in the entire history of the republic. It won't matter. He broke the "color barrier" and that will be his presidential legacy.

    Carmine D

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  6. Wasn't there something about "Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" in our history? Oh well, I guess financially strong is the detestable standard for "success".

  7. "M. Obama praises Jackie Robinson movie

    David Jackson, 2:17 p.m. EDT April 2, 2013

    The new Jackie Robinson movie got a good review Tuesday from a powerful critic: Michelle Obama.

    President Obama liked it too, the first lady said at a White House event honoring the film 42, which tells the story of how Robinson broke the color barrier in major league baseball during the 1940s.

    "We think that everybody in this country needs to watch this movie," said Mrs. Obama, the.nation's first African-American first lady. "And I can say with all sincerity that it was truly powerful for us."

    She added: "I don't know about you, but we walked away from that just visibly, physically moved by the experience of the movie, of the story."

    Mrs. Obama spoke at a workshop for high school and college students after a screening of the film, which starts Chadwick Boseman as Robinson and Harrison Ford as Branch Rickey, the Brooklyn Dodgers general manager who signed the first black ballplayer in the major leagues.

    Boseman and Ford attended the workshop, as did another interested party: Rachel Robinson, Jackie's 90-year-old widow.

    President Obama hosts a screening this evening for the cast and crew.

    While praising the acting, writing, and direction, Mrs. Obama said she was also struck by the "raw emotion" of the film, and what Jackie and Rachel Robinson went through.

    "The outright discrimination they encountered at every turn, from the fans in the stadium to the airport receptionist, even from some of his own teammates," Mrs. Obama said. "And you're left just asking yourselves, how on Earth did they live through that?

    "How did they do it? How did they endure the taunts and the bigotry for all of that time?"

    That kind of behavior still happens, but is no longer tolerated, the first lady said.

    "Jackie and Rachel Robinson's story reminds us how much hard work it takes to move a country forward," Mrs. Obama said. "It reminds us how much struggle is required to make real progress and change."

    Carmine D

  8. Don't we want the editorial staff at the Las Vegas Sun to read the letters more carefully?
    The headline to this letter seems to have been manufactured by the newspaper editorial department. I see nothing in either the original letter referred to or in this current one that talks about freeloaders. The Sun has made that assumption wholly on its own.
    Please be a little more careful when making up catchy headlines. May I suggest that the editor actually read the letters first.
    Having got the above peeve off my chest, I must admit that I was drawn to this letter because of the headline. Being from Canada, and therefore obviously some sort of hopeless socialist, I do believe that the lower echelons of society should be generously cared for even if a lot of them do appear to be lazy and their own worst enemies. That's what a just society does.
    It's the problems at the top of the income scale that need to be addressed. Leave the poor sods at the bottom alone.

    Donald W. Desaulniers

  9. The Parasites now Rule.

  10. Mr. Moldenhauer wrote, "Although this letter was essentially correct about why some people object to President Barack Obama, it is not true that his history was unknown. Even before the 2008 election, let alone that of 2012, a lot was known about Obama in spite of his dreadful lack of experience and lack of qualifications. Anyone who paid attention knew about Obama's political background."

    Obviously he doesn't know no one is ready to enter the Oval Office. Not until they enter that office are they aware of the secrets behind the curtain. If John McCain was elected we would be "ba ba bomb Iran" and invading another country?

    Once again the wingnuts are playing the southern strategy "welfare queen" card Reagan played during his campaign. Isn't it amusing that those screaming about freeloaders have no problem handing their money over to corporations? Billions in subsidies are paid to big oil, banks, farmers, military contractors, etc. In general the government created corporate welfare while the private sector cut salaries to employees. For example the NSA whistle blower Edward Snowden was earning $120,000 as a contractor but would have earned less than half that as a government employee.

    You whiners are hypocrites and the author is another misinformed/misguided product of right wing propaganda.

  11. Many freeloaders are born into it but they CAN find a better way, if only K-12 were helping instead of indoctrinating me-first thinking and beneficiary mentalities. Obama doesn't get it. Doesn't realize our economy is tapped out. We cannot afford to adopt millions of illegals--we haven't assimilated the 25 million already adopted. The affluent cannot be tapped for more and more to give and give to more and more people. It would be nice if we were able to support OUR OWN INDIGENTS BEFORE we dump $trillions in the Middle East and supporting 400 or so military outposts in Germany, England, Guam, Japan and everywhere else that will have us. We NEED A JCS (Joint Chiefs of Staff) WITHOUT OCD and the endless "need" to expand occupation of the entire planet. That doesn't help our security--it actually makes us more vulnerable to backlash and attack. We need to refocus on technology, satellites, intelligence, drones and GET OVER MASS DATA MINING and mass military. Instead of half a million troops during "peace time" how about a hundred thousand to SECURE OUR BORDERS and work on that DATA BASE OF VISAS AND ILLEGALS--which should have a much greater priority that my emails and phone calls.

  12. FUTURE 2:53. How about the PROPOSED FARM BILL? Some want to cut the amount doled out in EBT SNAP food stamps. Do ya think that's to cut the amount illegals and anchor babies get or is it to completely starve American low-income seniors?

  13. Freeloaders are predestined, from cradle to grave now, thanks to a cruel, self-serving 1% elite that dictates reality in our world. Precious few escape the socioeconomic class they are born into. In essence, the 1% elite have created freeloaders as a means to supply their businesses with a cheap, submissive, workforce that is too crippled to resist their grip.

    The over reach that the 1% elite has is not limited
    in our reality. Their presence permeates every iota of our lives, and we all can be critical of freeloaders, but we should take care, because unless we are one of the 1% elite, we are to be included and identified as a freeloader who must rely upon the goodness of the 1% elite to give us a break economically and politically (and we all know that is surely most limited as they continue to destroy the Middle Class that protects them from the very poor!).

    The title of this article is disconnected from the content of the writer. Someone didn't have their coffee early enough, obviously. Oh well.

    Blessings and Peace,
    Star

  14. Is it freeloading to play golf on the taxpayers' dime as often as Eisenhower and Obama?

    Carmine D

  15. "But never is the game of golf more controversial than when it's played by an American president. It infuriates critics who demand to know why he's not working on the nation's problems. It makes his supporters aggressively defensive about his right to have a few hours of recreation.

    In reporting his 100th round in on Twitter today [June 12, 2012], I was inundated by a fury of tweets condemning or defending the president for his activity and denouncing me for reporting the count.

    Opponents see rounds of golf as an opportunity to charge a president is a slacker, not focused on the responsibilities of his office. Supporters cheer his ability to take a few hours to refresh and revitalize. They accuse me of giving his critics ammunition to use against him.

    I encountered a similar reaction during the presidency of George W. Bush when I reported on the number of his trips to his Texas ranch (77 visits/spanning all or part of 490 days). His opponents said he should be at the White House working while supporters abused me for keeping track of such matters.

    Bush played 24 rounds of golf during the first 2 ? years of his presidency, but then, six months into the war in Iraq, decided to stop. "I think playing golf during a war just sends the wrong signal," he said in an interview in 2008 with Yahoo and Politico.com.

    During President Bill Clinton's 18 days of summer vacation in 1995 that took him to Wyoming, Hawaii and California, he logged over 71 hours playing 273 holes of golf.

    When for the first time he broke 80 during a round of golf in San Diego, he couldn't help but trumpet his achievement to reporters.

    "I was hot. I was smoking 'em," said Clinton of scoring 79 at the par-72 course on Coronado Island.

    We don't ever hear about Mr. Obama's scores on the golf course. And only rarely does the White House permit the press to get a photograph of the president on the links. During the Clinton presidency, such photo ops were routine.

    Different times, different presidents, different rules."

    Mark Knoller On Twitter
    Mark Knoller is a CBS News White House correspondent.

    Carmine D

  16. "Only DiFazio is capable of this Mr. Magoo styled racism."

    Really? Last I checked, Eisenhower was Caucasian.

    Carmine D

  17. "Carmine has been having to share America with the Freeloaders. He don't like it."

    You're right. I've harbored a racial grudge ever since the Brooklyn Dodgers beat my beloved Yankees in the 55 series. But.. truth be told I did have both a Yankee pin stripes and Dodger gray baseball uniforms--just in case--and wore them in the hood growing up: Newark NJ.

    Carmine D

  18. The GOP is largely to blame for Romney's "47%" and the letter writer's "freeloaders."

    "When Ronald Reagan signed into law the Tax Reform Act of 1986, he boasted, "Millions of the working poor will be dropped from the tax rolls altogether, and families will get a long-overdue break with lower rates and an almost doubled personal exemption."

    "Both the initial Reagan tax cuts of 1981 and indexing income taxes to inflation in 1985 had a similar effect."

    "In the 1990s, the Republican-controlled Gingrich Congress passed a $500 per child tax credit that also wiped out the income tax liability of many low- to moderate-income households."

    "George W. Bush expanded the child tax credit as president and also signed into law tax cuts that reduced the bottom marginal income tax rate from 15 percent to 10 percent. Both moves increased the percentage of people not paying income tax."

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/17/the-re...

    The 47% that Romney cited, or the "freeloaders" the author mentioned, were created, protected and grown from GOP tax policies. This is the sick hypocrisy behind their attacks. The GOP passed all kinds of tax credits and loopholes, individuals pay the taxes that are owed, and then those same GOP senators go on TV screeching about how people don't pay taxes, while their supporters write letters to the editor decrying their own policies!

    Will the GOP repeal their own policies that created the "freeloaders?" NEVER. They can't offend Grover Norquist. Even the Daily Caller admits this hypocrisy.

    Too bad Moldenhauer and DiFazio don't remember recent history...

  19. I love the way Obama's name constantly pops up in these discussions. Over 10,000 Americans a day have been signing up for entitlement programs for close to 15 years now. This started long before Obama became president and will continue long after he leaves.

    It's hardly Obama's fault that we have 78 million aging Americans signing up for programs like Medicare and Social Security. In addition the Iraq Afghanistan wars have created 700,000 disabled veterans. 3 million disabled veterans on the books since World War II. Obama has nothing to do with any of this.

  20. http://www.factcheck.org/2012/08/santoru...
    Social welfare spending has gone up under Obama. Mainly due to the millions of baby boomers that have retired since he took office. The second factor is that the financial crisis has pulled the rug out from vast numbers of Americans. Nevada is the picture-perfect example. The collapse in housing prices has left nearly everyone in this state flat broke. The entire hospital system is in dire crisis. Cancer centers have closed and crime has risen.

    Any president would have seen a rise in welfare spending under these circumstances. Let's get real here.

  21. rusty57 - "1500 dead americans in afghanistan since BO took over. Three times the number under Bush. Can anyone tell me what the point of it is?"

    Logic eludes another wingnut. Bush pulled the troops from Afghanistan to be killed in Iraq. That thought would never occur to you, would it? Is Obama responsible for the war in Afghanistan?Apparently you forgot about the guy who invaded before Obama became president. Afghanistan was a money pit for the Soviet Union which collapsed their economy and ended the Soviet Bloc. It has taken it's toll on our economy as well. But those facts are never mentioned or talked about by you people looking to hang anything on Obama. As a matter of fact you are responsible for the war by not voicing opposition because you were fooled into believing we could win in a country that has never been conquered.

  22. maltelloian - "I know about Obamas past including his being born in Kenya, but when I send things to the paper, including his real birth certificate, they remain silent."

    John McCain, Bill O'Reilly and thousands of others investigated Obama's birth. They all must be lying and ONLY YOU know the truth and have the facts.

    Why do some people lose their sh*t altogether when they hear the name Obama?

  23. Donald W. Desaulniers, I always appreciate the ethical and moral sense expressed in your views. Thank you.

  24. Star,

    I read your post.
    If I knew you I expect I would like you.
    Yor posts strike me as thoughtful and wise.
    That being said,and having lived in this country
    for 72 years, for the life of me your above post
    regarding the 1% makes absolutely no sense to me at all.

    I was never one of the 1%. I was one of the middle class strugglers who lifted myself up by the boot staps, and become as successful as my aspirations would take me. Actually I never had anything to do with the one percenters, and never really cared. This country still is ripe for those who will apply themselves,even though under the present liberal "fair share" doctrine,many have decided to sit back and take the government handouts--why? Because that is an option today under Obama. There is far too much emphasis today on class and income distinctions( the 1% idea), and not enough on pointing people in the direction of where the best opportunity might be. Students today think they need loans. Then after college,the Obama government sees to it that no jobs exist so that these graduates can remein dependent and on the dole,as Democratic voters. And then Obamacare allows a young person to remain on his or her parent's medical insurance until age 26--what's the message there I wonder. I left home at age 19, and was married with two kids and a college degree with a job by the time I was 23. And thingswere not that easy.I was not alone. That's the way it worked. No student loans either. We did our first two years in a local community college, then to a state University for the last two years. Later on when we were older we could usually afford to get one or two advanced degrees while we worked. What's wrong with that picture--nothing is. So I say to everyone who will listen cut out the "one%" and " fair share" BS and do something positive. The one percenters are no excuse for anyone's failure--only you can do something to make sure you have that chance to succeed.

  25. @maltelloian,

    Yes Obama has made mistakes. Prolonging the war in Afghanistan, continuing and beefing up the Patriot Act, caving to Wall St. bankers and Big Oil, giving too much of his first term clout away on health care, and other issues. But I believe if John McCain or Mitt Romney were elected we'd be in far worst shape. Obama came from the middle class and stands with the middle. Since the election of Ronald Reagan the middle class has been taking a beating culminating in the financial disaster of 2008. Why should the working class bail out those who make the "big" decisions and screwed the rest of the country? I see the GOP/Tea Party doing nothing to help the middle class other than to obstruct and impede the operation of Washington and Obama. It's the same crap they pulled on Clinton. They can't stand losing an election and resort to childish temper tantrums affecting the whole country. They waste money on bogus congressional votes and endless witch hunts attempting to tie Obama to some sort of conspiracy. Jobs could have been created rebuilding our infrastructure but Republicans are unwilling to allow Obama any success. We will never have a perfect president, but considering the circumstances, I believe he's done a better job than expected.

  26. Freeloaders. Such as Representative Stephen Fincher (R) of Tennessee)? The one who wants to hack food stamps? The one who is one of the largest recipients of federal farm subsidies? The one who received some $3.5 MILLION in farm subsidies between 1999 and 2012? The one who voted FOR the very same subsidies he personally profits from? That type freeloader?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/23/us/pol...

  27. To the author Moldenhauer: Where were you when the stock market crashed in 2008 and the Real Estate market crashed in 2006? You lived through these times, created by George W. Bush and you can't understand why the GOP didn't win the White House and both houses of Congress?

    Where were you in 2009 when the Iraq and Afghanistan wars were still in full swing, 8 and 6 years long respectively without a victory and bin Laden still loose?

    You must first be able to understand what you are experiencing before coming to any rational conclusions. The stock market crashed, real estate crashed and you say America voted against prosperity? You sound like one of those German Fascists that say they didn't know the concentration camps were killing Jews.
    It has been written that "It Can't Happen Here" but it can.

    Obama's political background is magnificent. You don't remember?

  28. Remember W. Bush? Was on "vacation" at his ranch for 490 days and at Camp David for another 487. A THIRD of his presidency was spent vacationing. For Obama that's 72 days vacation and 54 at Camp David - thru October 2012.

    Golf takes a few hours every so often. And the players have the opportunity to lobby the other members of the group. Obama played 104 rounds thru early August. Republican't Congressman John Boehner told "Golf Digest" that he plays upwards of 100 rounds a year. Anyone else see Carmine's double standard?

    http://theweek.com/bullpen/column/235844...

  29. If we could only get rid of all the Freeloading Seniors and their Medicare, Medicaid (For Nursing Homes), Social Security, Veterans and their "Free" Health Care plus pensions (Even without working to age 65), People Wanting Free Roads to Drive On, Bridges, etc., Parents wanting their kids to get a Free Education. Yeah Tea Partiers Get Rid of all Of It - Right Now - Chickens.

  30. And if Romney were president, he'd be the one pounding you in the a55. STOP VOTING! Both parties are bought and paid for. They only care about reelection, so they can return to the trough. You're ALL suckers and behaving exactly as they want you to.

  31. "Too bad Moldenhauer and DiFazio don't remember recent history..."

    That would be an "Oxymoron"...look it up.

    Carmine D

  32. "Carmine, Future, Casler, Freeman, Bob Jack etc.,
    Can you help your brother out here?
    Or will you stand by and let it pass?"

    He's doing just fine...it's you and those who think like you who are helpless.

    Now if you don't mind I have a sun rise T off with the boyz.

    Carmine D

  33. Abilities and desires. Motivation to do, to make do, to make it, to succeed. MOTIVATION. We make it much toooooo easy to dumb down and take rather than wise up and make.

  34. To whom it may concern: The "majority" view is, in many cases, irrelevant. We must do what is right. Enough Obama rhetoric about the "right thing to do" for everybody else. We must rebuild America from the ground up and STOP frivolous spending.

  35. Comment removed by moderator. Personal Attack

  36. Lobo, Rights are rights. Majority opinion is irrelevant.

  37. It doesn't matter if you agree. Constitutional (including Bill of Rights) rights are ours, not yours to decide. Rusty, I don't get violent. I need to push the limits once in awhile to see if the moderator will ever bounce me. Moderator(s) pretty good lately and not "taking sides" or bouncing "disagreeable" posts. H***, look at the tolerance for inane, illogical, irrelevant (puns intended).