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Anger, Fear, and Racism Follow Palin Rally
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Wednesday, Oct. 22, 2008 | 6:54 p.m.
A group of 10-20 Obama backers gathered in front of Henderson Pavilion's gates during Gov. Sarah Palin's speech. As McCain/Palin supporters exited the rally, many became enraged at the sight of the protest. Photo by Leila Navidi.
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These tards take idiocy to whole new level. They are all probably missing a chromosome or two. Unbelievable. These people deserve to lose their jobs and starve on the streets during the upcoming depression.
Funny how this kind of thing was acceptible when Bush won all the lefties who were moving to Canada. Wish they had gone. Why is it racism to be against Obama? 98% of blacks say they're voting for Obama and that's not being called racist?
Wow. WOW. It's scary to know that these are our neighbors. How comforting that they're all "Christians" -- wouldn't Jesus be proud of the hateful, spit-flying vitriol?
Emperorjoe ditto on your comment. The blacks are voting for Obama because of skin color, so that IS racist. But you don't see white people whining about it being racist. Howard Stern had a great radio show in which he interviewed residents that lived in Harlem to ask who they would vote for. Obviously I believe most of the interviewees were black. The responses were that they would vote for Obama because they agreed with his policies. Unfortunately when the interviews were done, the Harlem residents were told McCain's policies were actually Obama's, and even asked them how they felt about Palin being chosen as Obama's VP. The Harlem residents in this interview said Pailin was fine as Obama's running mate, and they agreed with whatever policies the interviewer suggested. These people who were interviewed showed just how ignorant and uneducated some of the voters are this year, and showed they were voting based on color more or less. In that case, they shouldn't even vote in my opinion. It is irresponsible to be voting when you have no clue.
Making the loudest noise doesn't make you right, it just shows your ignorance. When your only disagreement of a man is his color or name, than the argument is not valid. You should just admit that you are a racist. I am sure there is a burning cross in your future.
They have every right to voice their concerns. Luckily it was a McCain rally. If it had been an Obama rally with McCain supporters you would have heard a lot more crap than you heard here. Obama seeks to silence his detractors. Like Woodrow Wilson in the early 1900s, we may see more people locked up for political dissension.
I dont care what anyone saids! We're the most diverse country in the world and we still have a color issue in the free world. And we will never get over it becasue this race said this and that race did that. It would bother me but whats the point of getting upset about it we will never change becasue we live in the past and maybe that will be the downfall of our country and society. As we see people already trying to attempt assinations on Obama and for only one reason becasue of his skin and they say he's a terrorist but Bush has put the country in one of the worst American down falls. Neither of the candidates convince me anymore its just turned into everyone pointing fingers now while so much is going on in the country and the war.
Emporerjoe: I believe the racism being referred to is not the fact that people are voting against Obama, but the guy saying "Arabs are dirty people".
Just because the Sun endorse Obama doesn't mean they are now exempt from reporting the truth.
Where was the Sun article on the dozens of cars with McCain stickers that had their tires slashed?
Where was the Sun's article on the Obama supporters shouting and interrupting the speech, and having to be shouted down by Palin supporters so they could hear their candidate?
Those articles don't exist because the Sun has no journalistic integrity when it comes to politics.
The Obama supporters that showed up to the rally were not being polite or civil. I've watched several YouTube videos of the Henderson rally with titles like "More Racism At Palin Rally" ... only to find NOT ONE instance of a racist comment being made. Just like the Sun, those YouTube poster are lying about racism. Obama supporters are racist for not voting for McCain because he's white.
Everyone should have the right to pick the candidate that they feel will do the best job. The choice should not be based on skin color or lack of color. Using the "race card" is an easy way to feel justified when the real reason is based on many other factors. People who use the "race card" refuse to grow up and face reality. Maybe, we are just, not into agreement with Obama's policies and that is why we don't want to vote for him. If he wins are we going to spend the next four years hearing about racism everytime a white person disagrees with him?
I agree with the posters who cite the bias and the free pass that Obamatrons always get. A prime example is that it's now considered trendy and witty to sneer "You betcha" as a way of insulting Gov. Palin by mocking her speech patterns. And that gets no notice or condemnation.
But try mocking Obama just once by saying "Otay!" or "Yo, lemme axe you sumpin'" and see what the response is.
What shameless lies McCain and Palin are guilty of. It was this President and this Congress that caused, in large part, the financial meltdown and the bailout and the road toward socialism. Obama does not want to reinstate massive welfare programs. He just wants the rich to pay a little more taxes to lighten the burdens of the working, middle class.
Back in 2004, people said if "Bush wins we're moving to Canada"
Both campaigns rely on false attacks, lies, baseless attacks, and misrepresentations of the truth (how many times to I have to say this in all these different ways).
This is how politics works, you break the mob down into tribes and hope they throw rationality out the window.
Fortunately, Obama supporters are so wise, intelligent and well informed.
Check here for proof:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyvqhdllX...
For the latest Palin Controversy see:
http://www.thespoof.com/magazine/index.c...
Common_Cents, you have none. Sarah Palin actually said "You Betcha". And winked at me. Ewwww!!! One can only imagine the pathetic right wing reaction if Hillary had done that.
Obama, on the other hand, does not speak they way you just inferred that all black people speak. He is, in fact, a college professor. Neither is he a terrorist, the way the morons in this thread have inferred. Neither is he an Arab or a Muslim or someone who wants to destroy our country.
And there are many reasons why ALL black people are voting for a black candidate that have nothing to do with him being black. ALL black people have their own brains, in spite of what you think about ALL black people, and are in fact able to think as individuals, for themselves.
As for Sarah, she is qualified to go back home to Alaska and abuse more of her powers. Maybe have a few people fired because she doesn't like them, or maybe have the state pay for her kids to go to camp in Paris. That's in Russia. Right?
As for the "protesters", they have never been allowed anywhere within ear shot or eye shot of Bush. Arguments here to the contrary are completely contrived.
If you actually cared about this country like "real Americans" you would be busy holding your president Bush accountable for his horrific record. HORRIFIC!
"98% of blacks say they're voting for Obama and that's not being called racist?"
"The blacks are voting for Obama because of skin color, so that IS racist. "
First, 98% is conveniently source-free. No citation, no proof. Sounds made-up to me.
One only needs to look at the 2004 race between TWO WHITE MEN. Kerry, who is not African-American, received 88% of the African-American vote.
Was that racist, or am I confused about John Kerry's ethnicity?
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2000/results...
In 2000, Al Gore, another WHITE politician, received 90% of the African-American vote.
Yeah, your "racism!" delusion is all cracked up.
To geriatric1943, you said, "They have every right to voice their concerns. Luckily it was a McCain rally. If it had been an Obama rally with McCain supporters you would have heard a lot more crap than you heard here. Obama seeks to silence his detractors. Like Woodrow Wilson in the early 1900s, we may see more people locked up for political dissension."
Where are videos from Senator Obama's or Senator Biden's rallies that portray racist, rage-filled, xenophobic, and scurrilous attacks? I have seen at least four of these from Senator McCain's rallies and Governor Palin's rallies - two videos from Ohio and one video from Pennsylvania.
Look, let's at least define "racism" correctly within elections. Being racist is when you would never vote for someone of another race/color, no matter what. It's systematic. In the case of black voters, there are numerous cases where they have voted for a white candidate over a black candidate. Three
alone from the recent past are Lynn Swann (Pennsyslvania), Michael STeele (Maryland) and Michael Blackwell (Ohio) - all important races. In these, and others, the black candidates did not receive even a majority of the black vote. What do all three have in common besides their color? They're republicans. So the truth about the 95% black support for Obama is not
racism, it's a combination of Obama being Black and being a Democrat.
That may be political partisanship, but it sure ain't racism. Now, there has been racism in this campaign, from white Democrats (forget Republicans) who say they would never vote for a black man, regardless of party. That's racism, my friends.
I realize it's a common pracice, call it human nature, to want to downplay your faults by claiming the other guy does it too. It's also an interesting take on "two wrong make a right". In fact, Palin/McCAin rallies have been far more characterized by expressed hostility towards Obama. It comes in part from the message of Palin, and McCain to a lesser degree, but also from the feeling of anger and desperation at looming defeat. And I do wonder about the "christianity" that's at work here. You want to get a feel for an Obama rally, well just take 6 minutes to view this recent video excerpt from Richmond, Va.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9OhVMHIu...
I was there at that rally and I saw that guy (ballcap, move to Alaska if Obama wins) yelling obscenities and debunked lies about Sen. Obama at everyone standing in those long lines waiting to get in to see Gov. Palin. He made not only himself look idiotic but the Republican Party as well. Luckily, the majority of people who went weren't so hateful, prejudiced and angry - opinionated, yes but that's politics! I wouldn't wish this guy on *any state*.
I went to see Gov. Palin to see for myself what all the halla-baloo was all about. Yep, she has stage presence but didn't do a thing to change my mind, esp. afterward this wardrobe scandal. She really is being used by the sexist McCain camp. Disgusting.
When you mix the VOLATILE COCKTAIL of political ignorance and cultural bigotry and then cure it in an atmosphere of economic hard times, you get THESE CRETINS who come out of the wood-work. Hey Las Vegas, hear this: Your YOUTH are rising up against the fact that they have been USED by your right-wing support of war-mongers who send them into senseless and bloody flag-draped genocidal invasions of corporate conquest. They are not as stupid as you were! Senator Obama has awakened a new morality in this land and the hypocritical right-wing is on its way out IN A BIG WAY... just get used to saying: President OBAMA!
Republicans are officially the party of ignorance, anger, hate and division. From their "leaders" down to their supporters, they are all cut from the same cloth -- uninformed, angry and full of hate.
Good luck you hateful losers.
And this is the kind of crap that feeds into all the hatred we're seeing. Thanks to those mean-spirited people that call themselves the "family values" crowd....James Dobson at the head of the line. And these so-called "Christians" are still coming up with new red meat to toss at their "followers".....http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/24/christian-right-intensifi_n_137752.html
DesertKayaker - I'm not sure what you mean by "being used" by the McCain camp. I read today that she's very upset at how she was "handled" and wants to have more leeway to say what she wants to say. But if you think she didn't want to get the VP nomination, or was some passive participant in it, that's far from true, believe me. But I'm still for Obama....
"But try mocking Obama just once by saying "Otay!" or "Yo, lemme axe you sumpin'" and see what the response is."
"Common_cents" - if you don't understand how your own words exhibit racism, then don't expect anyone to take you seriously. Palin has said numerous times "you betcha" and other faux folksy things. But you've never once heard Obama say either of the childish statements you cite... heck outside of "Buckwheat" and Eddie Murphy - you've never heard a black person say "Otay". That's only a racist figment of your imagination.
As for some of the other ridiculous notions. Following the "logic" exhibited - Alan Keyes would've won, Michael Steele would've won... any number of African american republicans would've garnered at least a little support just because of their color... and no white politician would've ever gotten votes from the black community.
Except the entire premise is false... get a grip
Why is this video at such a high quality. For a web clip this needs to be more easily accessible. Come on, putting a video with this high quality on a website for streaming is like putting a silk hat on a pig.
"African-Americans voting for Obama are racists" -- aw, jeez, guys, this is nutcase reasoning. African-Americans ALWAYS vote for Democrats in huge numbers. Both John Kerry and Bill Clinton won 90+% of the African-American vote. I believe Carter was over 80%. I suppose those were racial transcendance votes.
And what about Women, Jews, and Hispanics, who also always break in favor of the Democratic candidate, and who are poised to do so in unprecedented numbers (54% for Women, 77% for Jews, 62% for Hispanics) -- I guess these groups are..ageists, who won't vote for McCain because they hate old people? That's certainly more solid ground. Because ANY Democrat would win the African-American vote. And that has as much to do with the good relationship between Democrats and African-Americans as it has to do with the overt bigotry of Republicans toward everyone who isn't old, white, mean, and male. You reap what you sow, fellas. Enjoy the cheap seats. You bought 'em.
"African-Americans voting for Obama are racists" -- aw, jeez, guys, this is nutcase reasoning. African-Americans ALWAYS vote for Democrats in huge numbers. Both John Kerry and Bill Clinton won 90+% of the African-American vote. I believe Carter was over 80%. I suppose those were racial transcendance votes.
And what about Women, Jews, and Hispanics, who also always break in favor of the Democratic candidate, and who are poised to do so in unprecedented numbers (54% for Women, 77% for Jews, 62% for Hispanics) -- I guess these groups are..ageists, who won't vote for McCain because they hate old people? That's certainly more solid ground. Because ANY Democrat would win the African-American vote. And that has as much to do with the good relationship between Democrats and African-Americans as it has to do with the overt bigotry of Republicans toward everyone who isn't old, white, mean, and male. You reap what you sew, fellas. Enjoy the cheap seats. You bought 'em.
So explain to me why it isn't racism when whites vote for a white candidate? And even if whites vote for a white, how is that morally superior than voting for a bi-racial candidate? The truth is that the status-quo has always been defined by white America; that also includes the presidency. It is just assumed that every four years white America trots out another white candidate for president and all Americans -including non-whites- are supposed to accept this as the way it's supposed to be. This is nothing more than another example of white privilege. The truly pathetic part of this whole thing is that white middle America is being screwed over by their own uber rich white brothers who get them to vote against their best interest by race baiting fear against non-whites.
You are correct, Tamanyhall. I posted earlier about this faulty "reasoning" so prevalent among those who claim Blacks are "racist" because they're voting overwhelmingly for Obama. It won't keep the right-wingers from repeating this baloney meme, but at least those that have read what you (and I) have posted know that they're deliberately engaging in intellectual fraud.
And let's not forget that in the recent presidential primaries somewhere between 96 and 98 percent of Republican voters were white. And did you see how white (and geezery) the GOP convention in Minnesota was?
From busing and affirmative action to welfare and immigration, this is a party defined by its of the race issue to rally its supporters and wedge off segments of its opposition. How many times a week does Hannity claim victim status because of the color line? And then there is that whole fake racial attack claimed by a McCain worker in Pittsburgh this week. There are a few Republicans of good will who would honestly like to invite African Americans into the party, but they are a rarity.
crockettNtubbs, i should have continued reading before i made a screen name to comment on some of the ignorant statements made on this topic, because what you said is well-said and exactly what i wanted to express!
We in Alaska are also shocked and dismayed at the revealings of our Governor McPalin. It's important for people "Outside" to know that votes for her were more AGAINST the former governor, Frank Murkowski, than FOR Palin, per se. Little did we know that she would turn out to be far worse than anyone imagined... What is most repugnant is how McSame handlers who never set foot in AK are now speaking as the 'source' of information on all fronts - as if they suddenly have become authorities on all things Alaskan, especially the 'facts' of AK/McPalin issues!
Note the AP stories in the past two days on the shocking number of unqualified friends and donors McPalin appointed to high offices in her administration - and how cronyism played a huge role in the proposed TransCanada gas line! (Which may never be built because McPalin and her pals failed to get the ok from the First Nations tribes in Canada for the pipeline to traverse their land. They were never even consulted and are pissed!!) Palin's demands of 'loyalty above all else' are far beyond Bush/Cheney. And like them she will look you in the eye and lie, lie, lie - and believe it's true because she said it!
Most scary are the latest revelations about McWitchy's fanatic religious beliefs. Think Salem witch trials....See the NY Times today for more on that. And can you imagine if Obama's wife/family had lifelong ties to a militant secessionist group like the AK Independence Party?! They would be hammered by the media for that. Palin gave a 'heartwarming' address to the AIP just two years ago!
McPalin will come back to a very frosty reception in Alaska - she will undoubtedly be censured for all her lies and perhaps impeached.
It's laughable to think this uneducated, inarticulate pathological liar has a 'bright future' on the national political front, as so many neo-cons believe. She has shown that she is McToxic - and we are just beginning to see the truths bearing that out. Yup Yup....
I noticed that some of you are trying defend the racism taking place by arguing that black people are also racist for voting for Obama by 90%.
The reason why your reasoning is flawed is because you conveniently left out the fact that blacks vote for Democrats in large proportions anyway - no matter the race of the candidate.
Bill Clinton got the same amount of the black vote. So did John Kerry. It has more to do with party loyalty than race.
I guarantee you that if Powell was running for president on the repulican side he would not get 90% of the black vote because he isn't a Democrat.
Although I'm sure there is pride there (you would be proud to if a white person had the chance to be president for the first time - EVER), believe it or not, black people study the issues and aren't blinded by race. Just like most white people are like this maniacs in this video.
When you try to use that flawed reverse racism argument, at least come up with something that will stand up to the FACTS!
The comments from people saying that a huge percentage of blacks are voting for Senator Obama because of skin color are ridiculous. How do you know that's the reason for their vote? You are just showing your own racist preconceptions - you just can't admit that blacks could be voting for him because they are smart enough to do the research and found he is the better candidate or has better plans or whatever. Your argument is as pitiful as your backwards thinking and certainly ignores the huge appeal of Senator Obama to every generation of Americans of every race, color, culture, and background.
To my friends the conservatives:
Hi.
Nice to see you again.
We're the ones who didn't let the terrorists win. We don't believe we should change our way of life because some madman with a weapon succeeded. We will put the mad dogs down, but we will not give up who we are out of fear.
We're the people who think maybe violence shouldn't be the first response. Maybe there are alternatives, sometimes.
We are the people who don't mind paying into a system that benefits everyone else as well instead of just ourselves.
We're the guys who think you can give people in need a hand without it being a hand-out.
We're the folk who don't think you should be judging people by the color of their skin, their religion or the culture in which they were raised.
We don't think the government belongs in our bedrooms, listening on our telephones, or collecting our emails. We don't think the government should be interfering and making medical decisions for us.
We're the people who will defend Bristol Palin's choice. And make sure that it remains a choice.
Because of these beliefs, we're also the people you guys have been demonizing for eight years. For quite some time, you've been calling us terrorists and anti-American and surrender monkeys. We've put up with it - free speech and all that, and we're the guys that defend it - but we're tired of listening to you rant.
We'll tolerate ignorance and bigotry, because we're Americans, but eventually we tire of your petty fear and vitriol. You can voice it all you want, but it won't rule us.
So we're going to be voting this year.
And you can't stop us.
All of you saying that a black person voting for a black person is racism need to understand something very fundamental about political alignment.
Being black in this country, or for that matter, this world has significant social implications. To be black in this country (or this world) means that you share the struggles of all Africans. You have shared in the struggle to overcome racism, to have to prove your worth more that others, and, nine times out of ten, you've shared in the struggles of poverty. Being black is part of a culture-- like it or not. Mostly this culture has been imposed on blacks by whites because of racism and the Western worlds point of view on Africa, believing that Africa's religions and cultures are inherently backwards and need to be "fixed" by the West. So, voting for someone who shares all of these struggles with you is not a choice that African Americans take lightly. African Americans believe that by choosing someone who is like them they are advancing there cause. When a Christian votes for a Christian no one questions that choice because we view that choice as a moral and political alignment with the candidate who best represents them. I can't get into all the nuances of Pan-Africanism, Black Studies and African Studies here but I'm sure you are all smart enough to think about this issue as being much deeper than the skin.
All of you saying that a black person voting for a black person is racism need to understand something very fundamental about political alignment.
Being black in this country, or for that matter, this world has significant social implications. To be black in this country (or this world) means that you share the struggles of all Africans. You have shared in the struggle to overcome racism, to have to prove your worth more than others, and, nine times out of ten, you've shared in the struggles of poverty. Being black is part of a culture-- like it or not. Mostly this culture has been imposed on blacks by whites because of racism and the Western worlds point of view on Africa, believing that Africa's religions and cultures are inherently backwards and need to be "fixed" by the West. So, voting for someone who shares all of these struggles with you is not a choice that African Americans take lightly. African Americans believe that by choosing someone who is like them they are advancing there cause. When a Christian votes for a Christian no one questions that choice because we view that choice as a moral and political alignment with the candidate who best represents them. I can't get into all the nuances of Pan-Africanism, Black Studies and African Studies here but I'm sure you are all smart enough to think about this issue as being much deeper than the skin.
Mike Freese talks about the threat to America coming from within while he has a Confederate Battle Flag design on his hat? Dude needs help.
illsaywhatsonmymind says, "Howard Stern had a great radio show in which he interviewed residents that lived in Harlem to ask who they would vote for."
Howard Stern is not a mathematician nor a scientist, he is an ENTERTAINER. If his "poll" showed 99% of the black residents of Harlem were intelligent on the issues and candidates while 1% had no clue, which ones do you think he will put on his show? Which ones would have the most entertainment value? If he wants to keep his show on the air, the most entertaining ones are the only ones he will use. It's not a black vs white issue with him and it's not how accurate the random sample is, it's how funny he can make the responses that he DOES use on his show seem.
McCain = Racist
Palin = Racist
Racists....racists.....racists.....racists....racists.....racists.....racists.....haters....racists....racists.....racists....McCain...racist....Palin...racist...they are racists...McCain/Palin = racists....
Show at least one person in this interview who
said they are afraid because he is African American. None.
These folks are saying that they fear to think he is arab or muslim.
What's wrong with you people. Don't you really listen or you
just reacting to the R-word in the title.
Heligew, if you fear someone because the are African American you would be racist. If you fear someone because they are Arab, you would be racist. If you fear someone because they are Muslim, you would be religiously intolerant. All are forms of bigotry.
Personally, I prefer calling them bigots, because that encompasses most of the "-isms."
You are ALL AFRAID BECAUSE "HE" is AFRICAN AMERICAN....because you are racist....
I'm done. I have terminal degree and I am a minority. I can no longer stand by and let people that hate me feel like they have a reason to hate me. Some are better than me and some are worse. Despite the matter, we all bleed red.......we all bleed red......Obama, McCain, Palin, Biden - we all bleed red...
And to put it further....we ALL bleed red, white and blue......
Sick of losing your job or NOT having a job at all - like me..................then VOTE OBAMA.....
I am so sick of feeding me family rice........................................................................................
heligew....are you serious?? get with the program you white-supremacist chicken s--t mother - umm.
You need to do some soul searching....you stupid............ yeeup.....
I stand by no one. YOU ARE ALL RACISTS!!!!!!!!!!! If you have something to say about a skin color other than your own - YOU ARE RACIST. If you have something to say about a religion other than your own - YOU ARE RACIST.
Sorry to break it to you, you stupid hicks, but there is some point where we must demand you move forward with us, instead of moving in your own direction, because we're sick of you dragging US - edumicated people - back.
suggest removal................... go ahead....it's all been archived....if you think you've made a difference then you are as stupid as the rest of the country, nay the world, thinks you are...
Let me clue you in you stupid hicks.....everything we say in this medium is recorded.....every emotion we expend and every word we type is recorded.
If you think you are hiding some hatred or hiding some piece of stupid white hick "wisdom", you are MISTAKEN.
You are being recorded at your OWN device you stupid republicans. How's it feel? You will never express your true views about Obama because you can't - if you did, you would be arrested on the charges of treason. How's it feel now beeyotch????
Let me guess. You didn't compensate for people like me?????? People that would fight repeatedly. GET WITH THE PROGRAM.
Heligew,
If you think that someone can only be racist against a black person then your ignorance explains your comments. I guess you are also one of those people that like Sarah Palin because she is just like you. Well I don't want my president to be like me. I want him to be smarter than me and Palin sure isn't.
This is the republican (insurgent) party in its last throes. Hat tip - Dick Cheney.
I get really annoyed with all of this talk about African Americans being racist because they are voting for Obama. Of course, people who say that don't allow logic and a sense of history to get in the way of a good rant. For 138 years, ever since the 15th Amendment was ratified allowing blacks to vote, they have voted for a white man to be President of the United States 100% of the time. Since the 1960's blacks have voted for a white male Democrat upwards of 80% of the time.
So why all of a sudden, would that trend be different because the top of the Democratic ticket is an African American? That alone should tell any reasoned person that African Americans are voting on issues that are important to them. The same as whites who do the same. In fact, most of those issues are the same for all races.
What I would like explained to me is this: why would anyone of any color vote against their own personal best interest? The McCain/Palin ticket is narrow in its focus and intolerant of diversity. They pander to the fears of people by reinforcing stereotypes, as well as the status of white privilege. This has absolutely nothing to do with the ecomony, health care or the war in Iraq.
Yet McCain/Palin supporters are also suffering losses in their 401ks. They see their small businesses being swallowed whole by the likes of Walmarts. They don't have adequate health insurance and their taxpayer money is going to nationalize banks and other financial institutions who are more interested in other financial acquisitions than providing loans and other tools to the average McCain/Palin voters who faces foreclosure or loss of their businesses because there is no liquidity.
And finally, the sons and daughters of McCain/Palin voters' blood runs just as red down the streets of Iraq as any other American parents' child does in Iraq. Yet, these people want more of the same all because of fear, anger, hatred and racism.
mkoch - great post. Not sure if those are your words or not, but that is a very well put summary. Thanks!
"Show at least one person in this interview who
said they are afraid because he is African American. None."
Oh no, it's not that blatant. It's more like "We can't make him sheriff! Can't you see he's a Ni...?"
"These folks are saying that they fear to think he is arab or muslim."
Gosh, why would they think something like that? Do you think it has anything to do with the fact that Rush, Sean, Billo and the GOP keeps drilling those lies into their heads? NAH! I'm sure the brainiacs have all done extensive research so their fears are all really well founded.
"What's wrong with you people."? You people.
BTW, it's NOT okay to discriminate against Arabs or Muslims either. I know they weren't mentioned specifically on the original list. But us liberals just assumed that "you people" we're smart enough to figure that out. Our bad!
Johnevegas - Many thanks. The sentiment came to me this afternoon, watching the videos of McCain supporters. Feel free to spread it around, I'm tired of conservatives "defining" us.
dnegri - I agree with you that Gov. Palin has ideas - I just don't think the McCain camp will really allow her to pursue them (that's why she's positioning herself for the future right now). She was sequestered her away for weeks because she's clueless about national, international and McCain issues but never prepped her to handle the media (and Couric's interview was not hardball). Then the Republican Party buys her clothes, as if she can't dress herself. I believe her selection was based on stunning folks and trying to get the Hillary vote. The former NOW women at the rally endorsing Palin clearing stated why they were so excited - the chance to get a woman in the White House. It seems they're willing to get *any* woman, no matter how unqualified. That's sad.
Today, I happily voted for Obama-Biden because we need to have hope, get a new direction, etc. :)
Sorry not all women are excited to get a woman in to the white house at any cost, I am a Hillary supporter and a member of NOW but I have already voted for Obama. Sarah Palin does not represent the values of American women. As Hillary would say " No way No how".
To my conservative friends:
Hi, again.
People who use words -- especially when they use them to demonize other people -- should really understand what those words mean.
So in a bi-partisan spirit, I would like to explain exactly what socialism is, in relationship to American government and society.
Obviously, Social Security is socialism. So is Medicare. So is Welfare, food stamps and unemployment insurance. Your police department, fire department and water supply are all socialist. The freeway system and nation-wide electricity were both socialist programs.
Our education for all system is blatant socialism.
The Military is socialism. The Military Industrial Complex is socialism. John McCain has been covered his entire life by government-controlled socialized medicine, as a child of an admiral, as a soldier, and as an elected public servant.
(Technically, all forms of insurance are products of socialist philosophy, although in some cases they are controlled by the private market instead of by government.)
The internet and the space program are products of socialism. If you add in those with the scientific breakthroughs of the socialist military, you will discover that a large percentage of our scientific advances were products of socialism.
Despite the clear threat of socialism all throughout our daily lives, it is only when someone proposes allowing certain tax breaks to expire - as they were written to -- that some people feel the need to inform the populace of the danger.
Whereas all the rampant socialism that affects us daily failed to sound the alarm, returning an additional 3% increase in taxes to amounts earned over $250,000 woke up the conservatives.
When it's shown that this amount only applies to 5% of Americans, and the richest, most prosperous ones at that, the ones who have directly benefited from 8 years of conservative economics (while the remaining 95% have actually seen their situation worsen,) it becomes a matter of "principle."
Apparently they feel that the top 5% simply work harder, and 95% of America is simply too lazy to prosper.
There, now you can argue the dangers of socialism in America with an informed opinion.
Ha, I bet if you ask these people what socialism actually is they would be dumbfounded.
These people are morons first, americans second. Regurgitating everything a desperate campaign shoves down your throat in order to take your vote. Its a real pity you people are such incredible fools with the state of our country the way it is.
"Socialism..Ayers!" Haha you bunch of blundering fools foaming at the mouths. It's a good thing we had your experts opinions pulling the lever for Bush in 2000 and 2004 because you're all such educated and classy people who will only lift American hegemony and make us all safer and richer than we were as evidenced by the last 8 years. You guys in the video sure do know whats best for this country let me tell ya.
It just makes me roll around and laugh at all these silly hatemongering fools. To actually believe the blind lies that have been told to them from McCain's schemes is proposterous.
The gas attack in Dayton Ohio, in a mosque about a month ago -- McCain sent out an anti-muslim "scare-tactic" DVD slipped inside a few major newsprints. In the DVD he visualized muslims and easterners as people who only want to see Americans dead. In that DVD they proported that all Muslims "want to see you dead, your children dead, and anyone following you... dead".
A week later the mosque was gassed in the name of McCain.
A week after that McCain came out and said it was Obama supporters trying to pin it on McCain
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-rodd...
^^ One of the original newsposts reporting the gassing. Also mentions "obsession" DVD's McCain's party reps created.
The pathetic part is, and everyone knows this, that McCain has turned to pathetic scare tactics. Everyone thought it's because Nov. 4 is nearing. The Truth is, McCain has known all along that Obama is destined to take the throne and *hopefully* cut the cords between the corporations (Big Oil, The World Bankers) that have killed the country. He's been freaking out since his announcement at the primaries. Further proof of this is desperation in using Twit-Palin to garner all of Hilaries votes, which has again, backfired as most informed and intelligent women that want to see things push forward for themselves and the country know that having miss Joe Six-Pack in office would mean political ditziness and many decades of back peddling after electing a horribly under-experienced, power-hungry, censure-worthy whench that stands beside a child-gassing lunatic.
I am not an American, just a very concerned neighborly Canadian. To see McCain and Palin come into office would not only directly effect your country, but with the claims against Russia and China this party spews, Canada will most likely want to distance ourselves. With Obama as president relations with all nations would most likely vastly improve.
Palin and McCain want to butt heads with the Russians over the Georgia incidents and the oil fields in the Arctic circle. When palin cited that War with russia may be necessary over the Georga incidents, right there it wasn't a blatant reason to NOT have Mccain and Palin in office.
Why... WHY would ANYONE want to start a war with Russia? Is Palin that uneducated about the WORLD as a whole? Obviously, as she is uneducated about her country. US goes to war with Russia, China backs Russia, 2/3 superpowers against the other one.... really, what do you see happening? I see a Chain Reaction, and not a good one for America (or us, face it, we're joined at the hip).
Obama is America's best choice, as his mouth definitely shows political prowess and ability to NOT piss off other countries.
Oops, forget to add link to Palin's Russia war claims
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Palin_tell...
Dear reader1 and fellow Nevadans,
Mr. Mike Freese and the screaming short-blond- haired woman in the video arrived in a car with a Florida license plate.
Sure enough, look what I found:
St. Petersburg Times(Tampabay.com)
http://blogs.tampabay.com/buzz/2008/09/r...
They are not our neighbors.
Assassination plot targeting Obama disrupted
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081027/ap_o...
Can we trust the ATF on this issue? Mr. Freese claims that he is a retired ATF agent.
http://blogs.tampabay.com/buzz/2008/01/n...
Instead of healthy food for thought, the McCain/Palin campaign chose to feed salivating right wingers with swiftboats laden with rancid meat. Suggestions of terrorist connections and Ayers, fear-mongering, and thinly veiled racism are served up regularly. This repast of lies, anger, fear and bigotry is unpalatable to most Americans--when they get a whiff of the facts. For these people, filled with chosen tidbits spewed out as facts, it is real, unfortunately. Violence, as a reaction to fear or frustration, is common. The stench that permeates the political air from the GOP campaign might gag us, but the realization of how cancerous this tactic can be is obvious in this clip following Palin's rally. We are aghast at the hungry beast this campaign unleashed, but Instead of adopting complacency because of Obama/Biden's strong showing in the poll, this clip should make us even more aware of the need to vote in this election.
You can bet the angry, fearful folks on that video will.
This is from a previous post, but is very important and I feel a need to have it repeated. Anyone care to comment on the so called college educated Mr. Freese? Mr. Freese, no need to wait for the election of Mr. Obama, you can move (as you said) to Alaska now.
Dear reader1 and fellow Nevadans,
Mr. Mike Freese and the screaming short-blond- haired woman in the video arrived in a car with a Florida license plate.
Sure enough, look what I found:
St. Petersburg Times(Tampabay.com)
http://blogs.tampabay.com/buzz/2008/09/r......
They are not our neighbors.
http://blogs.tampabay.com/buzz/2008/09/r...
Henderson in the national spotlight!
"'Exurbs' emerge as battleground in race" (Reuters)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081028/pl_n...
Dear Editor,
Do you have a plan to take this video down from your website? I really don't want people to think that the folks in the video represent Henderson.
Voting for Obama because he is black is not racist, just as voting for McCain because he is white is not. NOT voting for Obama because he is because he is black or McCain because he is white IS racist. Having a preference because of ethnicity is more ethnocentric, where as avoiding because of a race is racial descrimination. Remember traditionally blacks vote Democratic. What would have been interesting to see is if Colin Powell ran rather than Obama, being that he is a Republican. Yes, there may be people utilizing their power to vote in the ignorance of not knowing what is going about in the world, but they are not all black. It goes both ways.
I agree with DADEO....but moving to Alaska?...he'll still be in the USA....OOPS!
Mike Freese - "I'm not stupid" - Dear Mike, you are a racist. Racism is stupid. I hope you and Sarah enjoy Alaska.
Brenda Lee Martin - "Obama is dangerous". Actually what is dangerous is how bigoted and hateful you are. Oh, and incredibly stupid.
And to Mr. Brave and nameless "Arabs are dirty disgusting people". I am simply speechless. I trust karma will deal with you fairly.
And to anyone not from Henderson who might view this horrid video, please know that these people do not represent the best in our fine community. They represent the worst.
It is a shame that this has sunk into a black vs white election. Polls say 99% of black voters will vote for Obama. I doubt that white voters will line up to vote for a man because of the color of his skin.
It is also a shame that more white people seem to follow Martin Luther King's admonition to "judge a man by the content of his character and not the color of his skin." All the wonderful things Martin taught us seem to have been forgotten by all but a few. Nowadays it is fashionable to follow a Black preacher like Obama's pastor, the Rev. Wright. Rev. King preached peace and Rev. Wright preaches hatred for our country and hatred for each other. God help us all!
To Johnevegas -
you said: "Obama, on the other hand, does not speak they way you just inferred that all black people speak. He is, in fact, a college professor. Neither is he a terrorist, the way the morons in this thread have inferred."
Dear Johnevegas - You say you are not stupid: guess again! You can't even speak English!
Obama is not and never was a college professor, he was a "lecturer" at law school - which is like saying he filled in at times and didn't get paid much - sort of a very low level "community organizer" part-time at a law school trying to get some "professorial" street cred for future use.
Also, have difficulty reading your post insofar as you don't know the difference between "INFERRED" and "IMPLIED".
Look it up - you might learn something important for future posts.
True
True - Thanks for setting me straight on all the important stuff. You're very articulate for yur' race.
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