No. 18 BYU toys with Rebels in thorough 59-21 beating

Heat turned up on Sanford as UNLV sputters on both sides of the ball


Sam Morris / Las Vegas Sun

UNLV head coach Mike Sanford watches as his team plays BYU on Oct. 10 at Sam Boyd Stadium. BYU won the game 59-21 to drop UNLV’s record to 2-4.


The Rebels suffered their second straight lopsided loss, this one by No. 18 BYU. The Cougars piled up 611 yards of total offense on their way to a 59-21 victory.

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Outside of the UNLV locker room Saturday night at Sam Boyd Stadium, interim Athletic Director Jerry Koloskie said that his stance hadn't yet changed regarding the status of coach Mike Sanford's job.

"As the athletic director, my position hasn't changed," he said in the wake of the Rebels' 59-21 thumping at the hands of No. 18 BYU. "We're halfway through the season, there's six games to go and my position hasn't changed."

Unfortunately for the Rebels, now 2-4 in a once-promising season that appears to be close to entering a downward spiral, nothing else really changed from last week's humbling 63-28 loss at rival UNR, in which the UNLV defense allowed 773 yards of total offense and was punchless against both the run and in third-down situations.

Big, bad BYU came to town — backed by the majority of a crowd of 25,597 on hand — and had its way from start to finish.

While totaling 611 yards of offense — 291 of which came on the ground — and playing a well-executed, mistake-free, disciplined brand of ball, the Cougars also snatched away any whiff of momentum the Rebels were able to grab in the process.

Each of UNLV's three scores were answered by a BYU touchdown inside of two minutes apiece.

It made for two sound beatings in a row, plain and simple.

"Kinda in the tank, to not be explicit," junior quarterback Omar Clayton responded when asked what the mindset of the team was following another lopsided loss. "The only thing you can do is get ready for the next game and learn from mistakes."

With BYU showing no cracks in its armor for UNLV to jump on and exploit, the Rebels committed one of their three turnovers relatively early, with the game still on an even keel.

Trailing 3-0 on the Rebels' second offensive possession, Clayton, who missed last week's game at UNR with a sore right shoulder, was flushed from the pocket to his right. He floated the ball up in the air, sending it out of bounds as a form of surrender on the play.

Instead, it hung up close enough to the field of play for BYU's Jordan Pendleton to get in the air, snag the ball with one hand and come down barely inbounds. Three plays later, the first of three Harvey Unga touchdown runs made it a 10-0 contest, and the blowout was essentially in effect.

On top of his trio of touchdown runs, Unga compiled for 149 yards on 20 carries before giving way early in the second half to backups JJ Di Luigi and Brian Kariya.

As for senior quarterback Max Hall, who has a reputation of being forced into mistakes when under duress and flushed from the pocket, he operated like a surgeon, completing 21 of his 27 pass attempts for 320 yards and two scores. He was hardly touched all night, and for the first time in six games this season, went without throwing an interception.

"He had time, he was able to hit open receivers," Sanford said. "They had guys open, we didn't cover him and we didn't defend him like we're capable of.

"It's very obvious, we didn't tackle well enough to win."

Sanford pointed out that the Rebels were without junior linebacker and leading tackler Starr Fuimaono, who suffered and ankle injury against the Wolf Pack last weekend, while his top sidekick, junior Ronnie Paulo, was banged up early, spraining his shoulder.

But no matter who was in, the tackling only appeared to get sloppier and sloppier as the game progressed, ultimately ending with another unsightly set of digits on the scoreboard.

UNLV's offense again couldn't answer every score the Cougars were able to register, and turnovers didn't help that cause.

Clayton was 20-of-32 for 253 yards, two touchdowns and two interceptions, while backup Mike Clausen went 5-of-9 for 39 yards and a pick.

UNLV again abandoned its rushing attack early on as things began to get out of control. Clausen led the team with 17 yards on five carries, while junior Channing Trotter had five carries of his own for 14 yards, giving the team's leading rusher 16 yards on eight carries in the past two outings.

"We're just playing so uncharacteristic right now," said senior receiver Ryan Wolfe, who caught eight passes for 69 yards and, in the process, became the Mountain West Conference's second all-time leading pass-catcher. "We show signs of being able to move the ball pretty well. It takes one guy to do what they're not supposed to be doing to make a play fall apart."

After several of them fell apart, at his postgame press conference, Sanford deflected a question regarding his job status to Koloskie, who was standing in the back of the room.

New UNLV President Neal Smatresk, who was vocal over the last week on the subject, was out of town on Saturday night.

"I'm not gonna answer that," Sanford said. "(Koloskie's) right back there. If you want to talk to him, you can talk to him."

Contacted by the Sun after he left the stadium, Koloskie was asked if he thought it was premature for some fans to want a coaching change immediately.

"It is, in my mind," he said. "Absolutely."

While still mathematically alive to reach its goal of getting to at least six wins and earning a postseason berth, UNLV has a tough road ahead.

Next Saturday, 4-1 Utah comes to town for a 7 p.m. kickoff, having opened Mountain West Conference play earlier in the day with a come-from-behind 24-17 victory at Colorado State.

With all of the speculation and talk going on around the program and regarding its future, the UNLV players know that getting caught up in it would only make matters worse.

"Coach Sanford makes sure that all of our focus goes into the game," Clayton said. "Those things are out of our hands. What we can do is try to play hard, do well in practice and that kind of stuff, so we try not to worry about the coaches' jobs."

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  1. What is the matter with Jerry Koloskie? Will you say the same thing after next weeks pounding by Utah? It's been 5 years. Unlv knows what Sanford can deliver.

  2. UNLV is pathetic and should drop out of the MWC. You do absolutely nothing for the league.

    See you next week.

  3. So let me get this right. According to Jerry K, it's "absolutely premature for some fans to want a coaching change immediately"

    I wish we had someone in the media that would press him on idiotic comments like that.

    We're doomed if he gets the AD job.

    It's hurting UNLV athletics every day he remains as the acting AD.

    His statements are intellectually dishonest.

    He knows Sanford has failed. He knows this team has quit on the coaching staff. He knows there's no chance we're going to a bowl game. He knows that the sooner the change is made, the better off UNLV will be.

    Someone on Maryland Pkwy. DO SOMETHING. Will someone lift a finger? Pretty please? With sugar on top?

    There's nothing left to learn. There are no remaining unknowns. Sanford and Therrell are losers. They have been handed hundreds of thousands of dollars and produced zilch. NO winning seasons. Failure after failure.

    How much longer do they get to take the University, the fans, the city of Las Vegas to the cleaner?

  4. If there is a worse defense in the FBS of the NCAA, I can't come up with it. Two consecutive weeks of giving up more than 700 yards is not only pathetic, it is inexcusable.

    The Sanford experiment has failed. We have two options.

    1. Kill the football program and acknowledge what we all know, that UNLV is a basketball school.

    2. Fire Mike, open the checkbook and go get a coach who has a proven track record both on the field and in recruiting.

    Since I am sure the administration at UNLV will choose the second option and fire Sanford eventually, I can only hope they will go get that top level coach. All it takes is money, right?

  5. I cannot believe the cow dunn talk this KoloSTOOGEskie is ditching out. He must really think we are all a bunch of idiots with no sense at all.

    Both he and Sanford need to pack up and leave for another planet because when they leave, no one on earth is going to hire them.

    UNLV will finish putting themselves in the dog pound if those two stooges stay around. I have lost all respect for UNLV.

  6. UNLV is screwed!! We have Mickey Rooney running the athletics department and Ernest coaching our defense.
    (Tell me Therrell isn't Ernest reincarnated)!!!

    What is more disrespecting? Keeping Sanford and this loser Koloskie at UNLV or thinking that us fans are as stupid as them? Sanford doesn't have the stones to quit...

  7. Sugarbowl, the hiring of Utah's former offensive coordinator is killing us. Utah should take him back and pipe it down.

    I doubt you'll see many rebel fans at the game next week.

  8. I have said it before and I say it again. Fans, Alumni, Students REVOLT, REVOLT AND REVOLT. Make enough noise and boycott the UTAH game. Maybe if the Powers-that-be at UNLV see their donations and contributions dwindling and an empty stadium,they might take action and fire Lowell and Hardy.

    What a joke those two are.

  9. By the way, have you all noticed that the article Instant Analysis regarding Sanford being left hanging by a thread has been removed. I wonder who is responsible for that. When I clicked on the thread, it came back Page not Found. Hmmmmmmm

  10. Sugarbowl,

    it takes the lowest breed of human kind to kick someone who's down. Go to hell.

  11. you need money for a good football program and UNLV doesnt have it. is steve wynn going to throw a couple of million in the kitty? i dont think so, and the alumni cant convince anybody to kick in a dime. hope that the team will keep Utah close but as the QB said, " the only thing you can do is get ready for the next game and learn from your mistakes". they have a LOT of ground to cover.

  12. I feel for the players because they do not deserve what is happening to them. No leadership, no proper coaching and lots of excuses given by the coach after each loss. The reason the players are down is due to lousy coaching. The players have stopped listening to him.

  13. Bahasunrise- He is the link to Instant Analysis.

  14. I will be out there with my fire Sanford and fire Jerry Koloskie sign!

  15. Now I will not support UNLV until Koloskie is gone. What an idiot.

  16. Hopefully Sanford is gone by the end of the week.

  17. To Coach Sanford and his Entire Staff,
    How come you don't do the following:
    1. Enforce defensive fundamentals in practice (tackling, defensive stances, overunning plays, bad reads, not making adjustments after they've burned you on the same play twice, etc.)
    2. Enforce discipline in practice and on/off the playing field as well...players make tons of mistakes and you keep them in the game,
    3. You have NO GOAL LINE DEFENSE.....all the other team has to do is show up in the RED ZONE and they can score any way they want,
    4. QUIT as head coach...

    If you follow these simple rules, you can retire and let someone else coach that has a clue on how to coach D-1 football......

  18. Oh my! You armchair quarterbacks are great entertainment. Yeah, the football program is in dire straights and, yeah, Mike Sanford should go. How would you want your firing to be handled by your employer? I guess it would be okay for your colleagues to put up banners or something that said how bad an employee you are and really needed to go. Oh yeah, and when your boss didn't act when you wanted him to, you'd start in on him too.

    Despite what or how you think, Sanford needs some respect and if Koloskie just came out and said things to make you "fans" happy, then shame on him. They are both public officials and in the spotlight, but that doesn't make a hiring/firing any different than for you and me.

    Did you actually think that Koloskie would come right out and say, "yeah, the guy needs to go. He's done nothing for our program?" That is not the right thing to do. If Sanford wants to step down, that's his choice but will probably do more to hurt the men he's coached than to help you "fans" satisfy your desires.

    Firing Sanford today would solve nothing. It won't send UNLV football to a bowl game this year but would probably make things even worse, but I'm sure you all think it couldn't get worse.

    But then it would make you whiners least until the next issue that you want to complain about.

  19. Quiet, you certainly do know it all. I bask in your glory. Perhaps I can shake your hand once you get done patting yourself on the back.

    Here is a hint oh wise one - football coaches are public figures and take the job knowing that their success or failure will be on a very public stage. When coaches get fired, it is typically public and ugly. Something you clearly know nothing about judging from your comments.

    Nobody thinks Koloskie should come out in the post-game presser and say Sanford is fired. Don't put words in our mouths, sparky. All anyone asks for is some level of accountability and acknowledgement that there is a problem that needs to be addressed. Koloskie hasn't even come close.

    Oh and nice to see you can project that a) firing Sanford would make things worse (LMAO) or b) that this team does not have enough talent to beat AFA, UNM, SDSU and CSU to reach 6-wins. I thought you hated armchair quarterbacks? Hypocrite.

  20. You folks need to match what they paid coach in Alabama to get real contender. I would not think the school has stomach for that kind of money. You get what you pay for.

  21. Notice the dbag Utah fan who's living off a sugar bowl over an Alabama team who could care less. Your team aint spit this year (nor last year when you were supposedly so good but struggled to put away mediocre teams) so you might wanna keep your mouth shut before TCU and BYU spank you.

  22. Mike Sanford needs to be fired immediately. As in Today (Sunday) or Monday at the latest. It should be the President Dr. Neal Smatresk who fires Sanford. Koloskie is out of the loop and should remain that way.

    Mike Bradeson needs to be named Interim Head Football Coach for the remainder of this 2009 season. Bradeson has 14 years experience at UNLV and he has earned the Interim Job Title. No one else should be considered.

    The President needs to be in total/full control of the search for a new permanent Head Football Coach. Koloskie (interim AD) is a dead man walking and has no business even being considered for the Permanent AD Position. The president should relegate Koloskie to the sidelines and just have him take care of day to day operations until a new Permanent AD is brought in next May/June. Koloskie should have nothing to do with the search for a new Football coach and should be told to keep his mouth shut for the remainder of his time as the interim "stooge" AD.

    The President Dr. Neal Smatresk should do a national search for a Head Coach with Dirk Koetter, Pat Hill, Gus Malzahn etc. at the top of his list. I am hoping that he was out of town meeting with Dirk Koetter this weekend! If he is the President I am hoping he is, Smatresk was on a private jet going to meet the top 5 names on my coaching LIST! That is what a real leader would be doing in a time of crisis like this. He wouldn't be sitting around watching UNLV get blown out by BYU.

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  23. A new permanent Head Coach should be named by my birthday on December 7th, 2009. This gives them time to bring in some mid year JC recruits and have a full two months to build their first full recruiting class at UNLV. President Smatresk must be aggressive in going after a new Head Coach. We don't need any silly search committees with 20 losers on them. We don't need the interim "Stooge" AD Koloskie to spend any time on the search, he should be banned from the search completely! A big time hire by Dr. Neal Smatresk could cement his place as the best President in the history of UNLV, that is how important this Football hire is for Smastresk long term. Everything must be put on hold and an all out blitz must be put on the biggest names in Football. The time is NOW for UNLV Athletics and we need a leader who is aggressive and knows the importance of Football long term to the survival and thrival of the entire Athletic Department.

    A new Big Time Athletic Director should be hired by May/June 2010. I would have love to see them here now but the President screwed the pooch on that one. He can make up for it by firing Sanford IMMEDIATELY and doing a National search BY HIMSELF for new Big Time Head Football coach.

    Now is not the time to hesitate. Now is the time to be aggressive! I believe President Dr. Neal Smatresk will do the right thing. I hope he doesn't let me down. I hope he has greatness inside of him! We have been waiting a long time at UNLV for a real leader. Now is his chance to be great.

  24. Click the link below for a great list of coaches that UNLV's President Dr. Neal Smatresk should go after:

  25. JahReb Not sure what glory you're talking about and I think that you're putting meaning into what I said that simply isn't there. I don't think that a hiring or a firing needs to be managed through the press or blogs.

    The players have talent and it takes talent and coaching to win games. I'm afraid I don't see how a talented team could be successful in the absence of a coaching squad. If Sanford were let go now, who would step in? Who could shape the existing talent into a team that could go 6-0 from here out? Is one of the assistant coaches capable of rallying the players and formulating successful offensive and defensive strategies? I don't know and I know you don't have the answers either because we're all speculating here (well except for insufferable succotash - he clearly knows how to run things).

    I agree with you that coaches and ADs know they live their working lives in the public eye and that the public criticism goes with the job. It doesn't mean I have to agree with it.

    Accountability - absolutely. But it goes back to what I said before. There are professional, respectful limits about what could or should be said in public. Koloskie can see the problems too. And he will act with the appropriate decorum, respect, and professional integrity that should occur in any employer/employee relationship and that is demanded by the AD job. Based on what I have read here, I do believe that the only thing that will satisfy the unhappy comments is for Koloskie to state that Sanford has to go or that the football program is in trouble, or something along those lines. So, as for acknowledgement, I'm confident that he knows full well there are problems and I don't think he needs to acknowledge it to you or me.

  26. "It's very obvious, we didn't tackle well enough to win."

    What an understatement. We didn't get a junior Urban Myers with this deal from Utah folks. Hopefully the University President will put us out of our misery and send this guy packing. UNLV.....the joke of the MWC

  27. The Sun is reporting that President Smatresk was at the game and he was one of the last ones to leave the stadium, while the RJ is saying that Smatresk was out of the state yesterday and did not see the game. Does anybody know what the real truth is?
    If he was out of the state considering the condition of this program it is my hunch he is looking for a real athletic director if this is really the case. Hopefully not his loser friend from Hawaii!!

  28. North Carolina fired their Football Coach mid season - the he will finish out the season comment. ESPN praised the decision, as it gave the school the opportunity to be the first University with an opening to look for a new Coach. They get Butch Davis.

    The crowd was much smaller than previous BYU games and will continue to dwindle next week. The bleeding right now is too bad and a change has to be made.

    Jerry is a good guy, but not the guy for the job at this time. Let him know he is gone, start a national AD search and find us a BCS guy who understands how to make this happen.

  29. I have not heard anyone mention this: Why doesn't UNLV go after Mike Pritchard as our new (HC)? I know Mike he said he doesn't want to coach but most former players say that then you see them standing on the sidelines somewhere. He is a local guy who won a national championship in college, was a very good player in the NFL, has great football knowledge, a ton of passion for the game, knows what it takes to win, he would get top recruits no doubt about it, & put a winning product on the field. Does anybody reall know how many good football contacts Pritchard has and could bring into this university? To me that is a no brainer at least make him the offer.

    I think Pritchard would do nothing short of wonders for UNLV. He would be another Mike Tomlin IMO!!

  30. No $$$$=No talent=No "real" coach.

  31. Whatever fan base that was left has made a mass exodus to the position of protest.

  32. You really can't hire a coach until you find a permanent athletic director, or risk confusion and unneeded drama within the program that pays the bills. The two have to be one the same page. That said, in order to preserve whatever quality within the 2010 recruiting class, you have to fire Sanford right now. Can you imagine a young man, who has other offers choosing to go with the Rebels with all the uncertainty? With an interim coach the recruit knows that steps will be taken to get the program on the right track. Tradition means everything in college football, that said, UNLV has to get rid of the high school uniforms. They look exactly like my little league unis from 20 years ago. Find something that symbolizes UNLV, a scheme that is instantly recognizable as a Rebel uniform without seeing a name. You see Penn St, BYU, Florida, Tenn, and you know who they are because they have the same look, the same logos as their unis did 25 years ago. In building the football program you have to decide to do it right, not on the cheap, or go down a division, maybe even dropping the program. Men who have proven themselves as a HEAD coach and as THE athletic director have to be hired, no more coordinators or retreads from retirement.
    Sanford has a bad habit, I never see great coaches do: he blames his players taking no responsibility himself. He controls who the players are, how they are taught, the off and def schemes, no one else. To state the difference in the BYU game was the interceptions is plain stupid. Max Hall has a well known INT problem what does his coach say about it: "we need to call the right plays and avoid forcing it deep". I won't comment on the slowness of the scout team or injuries, last night opponent lost two offensive lineman before the first game as well as the services of the best running back who is just coming back, and they were without the 5 top special team players and the #1 WR. All teams have injuries, stop making lame excuses for your ineptitude Mike.
    The MWC NEEDS to have its keynote city having a quality program, instead of dragging down the league with the all too visible bad play.


  34. GO LOCOS !!!!!!!

  35. I'm a UNLV supporter and I think the only people we have to get rid of are the morons who complain about the program from the Internet! What the hell have any of these Internet morons done to help the AD or program? Are they season ticket holders? No. The only thing they're holding is their own sausage while surfing the web and complaining about Stafford.

    I'm a season ticket holder and UNLV supporter. As a native Las Vegan, I am disgusted by the lack of support UNLV gets from this community. UNLV would be a top 20 team if all of the local talent stayed at home as it does in Utah. We'd be a top MWC contender year in and year out if we sold out all our home games and the locals donated 1/10th to the program they contribute to the video poker machines at their local pubs!

    Sportsmanship trumps winning or losing. Too many UNLV fans are low class people who only care about winning, not about how the game is played, not whether or not the players did the best they could. Not whether or not the coaches are doing the best they could. Having said that, I've been a winner my whole life. I won playing sports at Gorman. I've won in business. The teams I've played on that won all had a few things in common. We wouldn't accept failure. If we found a weakness, we'd work on it even if we had to practice longer hours or the coaches had to forgo sleep and work long hours until they made changes that would work. I don't know if the UNLV coaching staff is accepting mediocrity and mailing it in or working day and night to figure out how to stop the bleeding on the defensive side of the ball. But if I was coach, I would make wholesale changes on defense until the opposition didn't know what was coming. I'd start freshmen and sit Jr's if the Jr's were not doing the fundamental things that I'd require as a STANDARD of performance needed to be met in order to play. No excuses, put up or sit down would be my moto. At least giving a highly regarded freshman playing time would yield benefits in following seasons. I can't stand to watch UNLV play defense any more, I often go to the food court when they're on defense. It's so frustrating to watch. It's not the talent on the field, they're all strong and fast enough, it's the lack of blitzing on certain downs, the lack of changing things up, the soft zones on passing downs that drives me crazy. Watching running back come out of the backfield for an easy 10 yrd reception every time, nobody covering them EVER! The QB scrambling for 10-15 yards at will, no LB ever flanking them. Who runs this so called Defense for UNLV? If anyone should be fired, it would be the Defensive coordinator, not Stafford. A coach is just a motivator, and leader, and an administrator, not a macro manager. So please shut up about firing him, start donating to the program, and support the home team. If you have something constructive to say, say it. Otherwise, spare the rest of us from having to speed read your drivel.

  36. Um - I buy tickets to see UNLV play, as do many who are posting on this site. My company has sponsored UNLV under Sanford, so quit the blanket statements.

    First off his name is Sanford - not Stafford (confused with the Detroit Lions QB I am sure).

    Donating has gone on for long enough, results are what counts right now. It is not getting done. I can give you a list of current College Football Coaches and what they have been able to accomplish in 5 or less years on their campus. Truth be told - anyone with this poor of a record has been fired. We play in a conference who gets national recognition through the efforts of programs like TCU, BYU and Utah. Colorado State made a Coaching Change, as did Air Force. Both had Coaches who had won in the past, but started to show a slide in their program. They were replaced with Coaches who last year in their first seasons both went to bowl games.

    People would show up to games if they were given a reason to show up. This Coach has never connected with the local community, he goes un noticed at his local grocery store - I have seen it happen in person. The defense has been poor annually and the people who have been given the role to improve it have been his hires.

    Fans like you who dont seem to understand that College Football actually does mean something at just about every college campus in the country. If the team does not perform after a Coach is given time to bring in a complete recruiting class - which Sanford has, they are let go. Would you keep an employee who has not hit their goals in a 5 year time frame? Your thinking says that you would.

    This is College Sports and if the basketball program showed the same poor results - the entire town would want the Coach to be gone. Why is football given a free pass for lack of results? Should we not expect to beat Nevada? Should we not expect to have a team that can play defense? Should we spend our money each week and just say oh well- the kids are strong and fast and just need to blitz more? We all know that this is not Notre Dame. But, Utah fired a long time Coach who was not producing. They hired a Coach from Bowling Green by the name of Urban Meyer and the program is now a national power. BYU did the exact same thing with Lavell Edwards. Because we are UNLV we should not have the same expectations?

    He had his chances to make personel changes, but his part of the company is failing while his competition has made changes and has improved.

    The Coach is the CEO and a motivator. If he can not get his talent to improve and get better over 5 years - then changes need to be made. That is College Football and last time I checked UNLV is playing against teams who think exactly like this. When we get our fans to expect results, then you will see more on board and money coming back into the program.

  37. Yea if the team would earn the support they might get it !

  38. Wow, "dt" it's people like you that give the rest of the real fans bad names. Do you have to use extra Windex to wash the crayon off of your monitor?

    Does "the_Prophet" know who the next head coach is? Do all of the Stafford's in the prospective coaching pool need to line up? I agree with your technical points on the defense and think that the D Coordinator is an absolute joke. Your demeaning comments about "holding sausage", I had to give up my season tickets because of the scholarship fee, but still support the team.

    It is sad when Wyoming can find a coach that can motivate his players who are stuck in the armpit of the college universe to play 10 times harder than our kids.

  39. Sergio you are no prophet:

    You have no idea who you are talking to on this board or how much money I or anybodys else has, or how much I have personally invested into this failed athletics department over the years. I find it really hard to believe that you are a winner at anything because your words contradict the character of a true winner. You wouldn't accept failure in high school but now you do with this program? You are mediocre at best and definately not an athlete, probably a male cheerleader, but oh you can play a nasty game of chess while wearing your argyle sweater and pennyloafers!!

  40. I don't accept losing, I just don't blindly put the blame on the coach. In basketball, an coach is more important. Only 5 players. In football, the assistants and the organization is what makes a team successful, not the CEO. (coach).

    Is it the coaches fault that UNLV as a university does not attract the best talent and can't even hold the best local talent? Does he run the university? It's easy to play the blame game, hard to come up with solutions. However, I do feel the real solution lies within the boosters and supporters doing more to help the program at the very least do a better job of keeping home grown talent right here! Would it be against the rules to give kids a cushy good paying job if they stay in Vegas? How can the NCAA prove a kid got the job just because he plays for UNLV? This is the type of "stuff" other programs do to get players. Are we that scared at helping players get "paid" as they do everywhere else because of what happened to Tark? If so, then we're not playing on an even playing field. Players are not dumb. They know the value they bring to a university. A good booster base will make sure players are happy to play at their university. Universities are not allowed to to that, the community is.

  41. Driving down the freeway today, I noticed the sign read...

    US 95
    UNLV 0

  42. With a name like Sergio I wouldn't be calling other Rebel fans low class there, sleazeball.

    Succotash, another good post. Let's hope Samstrek has the balls/brains to do something right.

  43. Smart comment Lenny, it speaks volumes and proves my point.

    If posters here are doing something financial to help the football program, then I'd say they have a right to voice their opinion. My assertion is simple. Those who don't donate or do anything to help the athletic department but simply bitch and whine about the coach are as valuable to this discussion as a cup of warm spit.

  44. Point taken about the couch-whiners but Sergio, I'm sure there are Rebel fans who don't have the ability (in these tight times) to match your contribution. According to you that makes them low class. I think that says more about you than them.

  45. Alright, now that I think about it there are a lot of dbags at the game. Usually they're college age and extremely drunk. If you're talking about them then I agree. I've come close a couple times if you follow me.

  46. Yes, I'm talking about "them", the kids who like to act like idiots at the game with no class who swear and get drunk. They make the rest of us look bad. The business people in the stands who support the local university such as myself do not think these types of people should be the foundation for a sports program. At most college football games in this country, you'll find tens of thousands of former alumni who are now professionals or business people who go go to the games with their families. Granted, we're not a "college town" and we don't have that type of following, that doesn't mean we shouldn't get the local businesses to support the football team.

    Another thing that I'd like to see is the high school football coaches support our football team. Have an assistant coach at UNLV in charge of the local talent pool. Have him in constant communication with the local HS football coaches. Have the top local talent get free game tickets to all UNLV games so that they become fans and perhaps decide to stay at home to help the local team, as did Payne. The local businesses can then help out by giving these kids good paying jobs while they're at UNLV, maybe comps to the local attractions (not endorsed by the university but they can't stop boosters from comping the players ...happens in all programs ...and we have plenty to comp in this town!) That is the type of support that needs to be stepped up if we're going to establish ourselves a football power. Not a new coach, not even a new stadium. It will take the local community to man up and do what it takes to keep the local talent here, then take care of those kids while they go to college. That's how they do it all over the country. That's how we have to do it here. A local effort. Football more than any other sport is a team effort, and not just on the field, but also in the community.

  47. I agree with a lof of what you're saying except the implication that we should keep Sanford on. Once the rot reaches a certain point you have to throw the apple away, regardless of what caused the deterioration in the first place. Hiring a new coach alone will not change things but that along with other changes, some of which you mentioned, will help turn it around. And by the way, there are many examples out there of things being turned around very quickly in college sports.

  48. @Sergio-

    Your admissions are steps in the right direction. Couldn't have said it better. Too bad you're preaching to an abattoir of screeching imbiciles.