MWC TOURNAMENT:

Despite SDSU’s 55-45 triumph, UNLV still confident heading into Selection Sunday

At 25-8 with a strong resumé, Rebels feel tournament-worthy

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San Diego State coach Steve Fisher salutes fans with the net after their Mountain West Conference championship game against UNLV Saturday, March 13, 2010. San Diego State won the game 55-45.

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For the fifth time in the last six meetings, San Diego State knocks off UNLV, winning the Mountain West Conference Championship, 55-45.

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UNLV guards Tre'Von Willis and Kendall Wallace walk off the court after their Mountain West Conference championship game Saturday, March 13, 2010, against San Diego State University. Launch slideshow »

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SDSU POSTGAME: "Like a casual Friday before a three-day weekend"

Ryan Greene and Ray Brewer discuss a 55-45 UNLV loss in the MWC title game to San Diego State, which didn't necessarily burst the Rebels' NCAA tournament hopes, but rather will simply affect their seeding in the field of 65. Roughly 20 hours after an epic night of semifinal action, fabulous freshman Kawhi Leonard paced the Aztecs to a victory with 16 points and a career-high 21 rebounds.

A year ago, getting to the title game of the Mountain West Conference tournament wasn't enough to keep San Diego State's NCAA tournament bubble from bursting a day later.

Now, after the Aztecs lowered their stress level by securing the league's automatic bid on Saturday with a 55-45 victory against UNLV, the Rebels can still probably head into Selection Sunday pretty confident at 25-8 overall with a firm resumé in its portfolio.

"I'm still confident that we'll be seeded. It probably won't be that high, and I don't expect it to be that high, but I'm sure we'll make the tournament," sophomore forward Chace Stanback proclaimed in the wake of UNLV's second loss this season to SDSU in three tries. "We're definitely down right now, but we've still got a lot of basketball left to play."

Following Friday night's epic semifinal round, both UNLV and San Diego State (25-8) were widely assumed to be solidly in the NCAA's field of 65, with Saturday's title game being played for both pride, seeding purposes and, of course, the guarantee of a ticket to the dance.

Despite some shake-ups on Saturday across the country — provided by the likes of Houston, New Mexico State, Minnesota and Mississippi State — several experts still think UNLV will hear its name called come 3 p.m. Sunday.

Saturday's outcome just might add a bit of nervous energy to the room when the Rebels get together to watch the unveiling of the tourney brackets following the team's season-ending awards banquet.

"I think once our name comes up, then we can finally relax," junior guard Kendall Wallace said. "Hopefully it comes up and we can have a big sigh of relief and look forward to next week.

"I think we've played some very tough teams this year and won the games we've needed to win, for the most part. We had a good road record, we won against some tough teams. I don't know what else they're looking for."

A third tournament bid in four seasons on Sunday also might be the best elixir to help the Rebels forget about Saturday's outcome.

Both teams started off slow, with multiple factors to blame.

Wallace said nerves on both sides may have played a part in the sluggish first half, but another key may have been fatigue across the board, as each team had less than 24 hours to recover from brutal battles in a heated atmosphere Friday night.

UNLV trailed by three at the half, 25-22, and in the second half appeared to take a strong upper hand as SDSU had trouble adjusting to the Rebels' full-court pressure defense.

Forcing Aztec turnovers, miscues and frustration helped the Rebels construct a 38-34 lead with 12:45 to play following a Stanback 3-pointer.

However, the tides turned quickly from there, as UNLV would only muster three made field goals the rest of the way, including two droughts of nearly five minutes between buckets.

In that final 12:45, UNLV was just 3-for-16 from the floor with seven turnovers.

Throughout the night, San Diego State controlled the glass with its long, athletic and hyper-active front line. That ultimately made the difference as UNLV struggled to create offense down the stretch.

SDSU out-rebounded UNLV 37-26, and in three meetings this season, won the battle of the boards by a combined margin of 120-91.

Freshman forward Kawhi Leonard sealed tournament MVP honors with his incredible 16-point, 21-rebound performance, including hitting eight consecutive free throws down the stretch.

The other Aztec towers inside — juniors Malcolm Thomas and Billy White — combined for 14 points and 10 boards.

Meanwhile, after having a career night for the Rebels on Friday in a 70-66 victory over No. 14 BYU, UNLV sophomore Brice Massamba struggled. He picked up two quick fouls, then was bottled up in the second half, finishing with no points, two rebounds and two turnovers before fouling out after playing 18 minutes.

Massamba, junior Matt Shaw and senior Darris Santee totaled just one point and three rebounds.

"When you think about their five man, four man being Thomas and White, very, very active, very athletic, can get out and cover perimeter guys, as well as block shots on the interior," UNLV coach Lon Kruger said. "Then of course Leonard is fantastic. He does a terrific job in every way. He may set the standard for strong athletes, combination of both strength and athleticism.

"Everybody would like to recruit a guy to match up with him, but hard to find those."

San Diego State was far from pretty stat-wise, going 18-of-46 from the floor, 4-of-13 from deep and committing 18 turnovers.

But UNLV simply matched that, hitting 17 of 52 shot attempts, going 6-of-22 from 3-point range and turning it over 15 times.

Junior guard Tre'Von Willis, playing on a left ankle still sore from an incident during Friday's second half, scored 11 points on 4-of-12 shooting, while sophomore guard Oscar Bellfield also tallied 11. The sore thumb on Bellfield's stat line, though, was six turnovers compared to five assists.

Stanback had 10 points, seven rebounds and three steals in the losing effort.

Now it's simply time for UNLV to hurry up and wait for Sunday's selection show.

Some teams' bubbles more than likely popped on Saturday with league's such as the WAC and Conference USA now probably gobbling up two bids apiece due to title game upsets.

But UNLV still feels as if it has little reason to worry, as the Mountain West is still on track for a record four NCAA bids. That thinking is probably accurate, and Kruger, after all of his years in the game, has as good a feel for the situation as anyone.

"If there was really a big doubt about us being in then that's a little different for sure," Kruger said. "We've been in the situation before. But this group has obviously accomplished what it needed to to be selected, and we'll just wait and see what the seed is and where we go.

"This group's been in (the tournament field) for a while based on what everyone says. Winning two games this week adds to it. I don't think that's an issue with our guys. They're just disappointed to have lost a championship game."

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  1. Rebels on the Bubble. Lets hope that Minnesota and Mississippi State don't win their Conference Tournaments on Sunday!

    31 - Automatic Bids
    01. Duke (ACC Winner)
    02. Vermont
    03. East Tennessee State
    04. Temple (A-10 Winner)
    05. West Virginia
    06. Montana
    07. Winthrop
    08. Ohio State (Big Ten Winner)
    09. Kansas
    10. UC Santa Barbara
    11. Old Dominion
    12. Houston
    13. Butler
    14. Cornell
    15. Siena
    16. Ohio
    17. Morgan State
    18. Northern Iowa
    19. San Diego State
    20. Robert Morris
    21. Murray State
    22. Washington
    23. Lehigh
    24. Kentucky (SEC Winner)
    25. Wofford
    26. Sam Houston State
    27. Oakland
    28. North Texas
    29. Arkansas Pine Bluff
    30. Saint Marys
    31. New Mexico State

    32 - Locks
    01. Florida State
    02. Maryland
    03. Wake Forest
    04. Clemson
    05. Gonzaga
    06. Georgia Tech
    07. Georgetown
    08. Notre Dame
    09. Louisville
    10. Syracuse
    11. Villanova
    12. Pittsburgh
    13. Marquette
    14. Michigan State
    15. Wisconsin
    16. Purdue
    17. Kansas State
    18. Missouri
    19. Oklahoma State
    20. Baylor
    21. Texas A&M
    22. Texas
    23. California
    24. Tenneseee
    25. Vanderbilt
    26. BYU
    27. New Mexico
    28. Richmond
    29. Xavier
    30. Virginia Tech
    31. UTEP
    32. Utah State

    2 - Bubble Teams
    01. Minnesota
    02. Florida
    03. UNLV
    04. Mississippi State
    05. Illinois
    06. Rhode Island
    07. Seton Hall
    08. Arizona State
    09. Mississippi

  2. Sufferin, first of all, welcome back.

    And UNLV is not a bubble team, no matter how many times you post that. We've been a lock since we beat Utah.

    See you back on the bandwagon next week.

  3. UNLV is on the BUBBLE.

    I think we will get in as long as Mississippi State and Minnesota lose on Sunday.

    BUT WE ARE ON THE BUBBLE.

    Make no mistake about that.

    Losing at home in the MWC Tournament Championship did not help us. It hurt. BAD!

  4. Sufferin, you are not a rebel fan. please start rooting officially for BYU or UNR or some other rival of UNLV. you are the opposite of a fan. it's worthless to even engage you on this discussion because you'll say that you are a true fan. you're a bum.

    great season for the rebs so far. i like our chances in the NCAA's. the familiarity of conference play makes it tough to win. i like our chances against anyone... go rebs!

  5. I am hoping that we get in the Big Dance just as much or more than anybody!

    But I am realistic.

    Take a look at the 31 Autobids. Take a look at the 32 locks. THAT IS 63 SPOTS TAKEN!

    Only two spots are left.

    Now, I think we deserve and I think we will get one of those final two spots as long as Mississippi State and Minnesota LOSE ON SUNDAY.

    If not, NIT.

  6. you're not realistic you are pathetic. UNLV just played a great week of basketball in what is widely regarded as the best MWC tourney yet and you are pushing your agenda of UNLV going to the NIT to make yourself feel better or to push the buttons of the commenters on this site. either scenario is nothing to be proud of... please go back under your rock and continue sketching blue prints for UNLV's on campus football stadium. or better yet, start talking about how hopeless this UNLV team is when they get to the sweet 16 again.

    you are not a fan. you spent the last 5 months plus claiming that these players aren't worthy of a UNLV jersey. i think everyone who reads this will agree that you aren't worthy of the distinction of describing yourself as a UNLV fan.

  7. UNLV is on the BUBBLE! The way they played on Saturday is NIT quality Basketball. We better hope the committee couldn't pick up Versus in the room. We looked HORRIBLE.

    If Minnesota and Mississippi State win on Sunday, UNLV is in the NIT. That is a fact.

    The MWC will likely get three teams in the Big Dance. The best we can do is hope for a 4th team and pray that Minnesota and Mississippi State lose on Sunday.

    It is out of our hands now. We are on the bubble and have to sweat it out now. Losing at home and looking terrible doing so might end up costing us our bid.

    WE ARE NOT A LOCK. WE ARE ON THE BUBBLE.

    I hope we get in.

  8. Mark Schlabach from ESPN.com just updated his bubble watch.

    The only difference between Mark Schlabach's picks and mine is FLORIDA. Schlabach has them on the outside looking in, while I have Florida as the last bubble team chosen. Schlabach has UNLV in, I have them on the bubble.

    That is the only difference between his and mine. ONE TEAM.

    http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketba...

  9. @sufferin
    why would you bash your own team on a public forum, and then say "i hope we get in" ??

    thats like fans chanting "overrated" to teams you are beating. it cheapens the effort of the team to get that win.

    look man, lets make this real clear, and lets state something extremely obvious for the record, THIS ISN'T 1990. quit living in the past. and don't bash the team that you're an alleged fan of. sometimes venting, as a fan, is healthy for the sport, but trust me, Kruger, the players, the Mtn West, the NCAA committee, ESPN, CBS, or anyone, cares about what you think or say will happen.

    UNLV lost. they got out played by a very good and underrated team. i wanted them to win like every other rebel fan but it didn't happen. get over it. the SUN will be up tomorrow reporting on the seedings that all 4 of them Mtn West Teams will be getting. (that pun was for you ryan)

    overall i think it was a great 3 days of basketball by all teams.

  10. I am not sure how much success Schlabach has had. I do know Lunardi has had a lot of success lately. He has the Rebels as a 7 seed.

    http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketba...

    Funny thing is my bracket looks just like Lunardi's and it also looks like Schlabach's if I turn it the other way. Ooooh and if I turn it this way it looks just like yours sylvester, no wait I was wrong, it looks like I just pulled something out of my, well you know, wait I was right it does look just like yours.

  11. Now I will talk to the big boys on here.

    Lunardi's bracket has UNLV as a 7 with a potential matchup against Ohio State in the second round. I hope he is right. We match up VERY well against both teams with Missouri being the first round game. I don't know how accurate he is at actually picking the seeds and then the matchups but I hope he is right about this one. Plus, being a 7 seed is nowhere near the last 4 in. Which means no bubble at all.

  12. Rebel fever if you honestly think you match up well with Ohio State you are insane. Evan Turner will show you what big time players do to small time wannabe's. You better hope that matchup doesn't happen!

  13. well sufferin, if you had done a little more research on espn's website, you might have noticed that Joe Lunardi also updated his bracket, where he has our "bubblicious" rebels as a 7 seed. Good thing ESPN doesn't pay you to do its bracket forecasts. Wait, does anyone pay you for your input? Didn't think so... Stop trolling and do something productive with your life please.

  14. I was thinking today about the whole "home court advantage" farce, and decided to do some homework... check this out. Results are consistent with regular season performance, both in Vegas and in Denver.

    Season, Tournament record, tournament finish, final season record
    96-97 1-1 Quarterfinals 22-10
    97-98 4-0 WON 20-13
    98-99 0-1 First Round 16-13
    99-00 3-0 WON 23-8
    01-02 2-1 Championship 21-11
    02-03 2-1 Championship 21-11

    DENVER
    03-04 2-1 Championship 18-13
    04-05 1-1 Semifinals 17-14
    05-06 1-1 Semifinals 17-13

    VEGAS
    06-07 3-0 WON 30-7
    07-08 3-0 WON 27-8
    08-09 0-1 First Round 21-11
    09-10 2-1 Championship 24-8

  15. Robert,
    It is unlikely Minny beats OSU, and Miss St. beats Kentucky.

    If one of the aforementioned underdogs score an upset, that leaves UF and UNLV for one spot. Advantage UNLV. UF is 3-8 versus the RPI top-50, UNLV is 6-5.

    However, after last year's hoax of Arizona being included into the field of 65, I am kind of sweating this.

    If MSU and UM both win, there WILL be one "lock" who gets "unlocked" and will be dropped to a NIT #1 seed. I REALLY hope it is not the Rebels.

  16. Regarding Sufferin' I don't think everyone should bag on the guy because he's ignorant. When a nut just screams and screams in public you should just ignore him, I think.

    A few days ago, he was crying about an on-campus stadium and presented everyone with his grand vision-a copy/paste job of Sam Boyd Stadium plopped down in the black parking lot of TMC that would take out two major water lines to the university. Did he know that? No, of course not. But ignorance never stopped nuts before, it didn't then, and it won't in the future.

    As Buddy Holly wrote, Rave On, Suffy, Rave On. We need the chuckles you provide.

  17. On second thought, they'll unlock an A-10 or MVC team before they do it to UNLV....I think.

    Seeing fire marshall bill cutting down that net just isn't right.

  18. LOL @ CJJ!

  19. Some of our "fans" should frame that picture at the top of the page. Seems like they're always rooting for someone else!

  20. No Atlantic-10 or MVC team will be moved to the NIT before UNLV would.

    Northern Iowa is the only MVC team that is getting into the NCAA's. They have an Automatic Bid and can't lose it.

    In the Atlantic-10 you have Xavier, Temple and Richmond that are getting into the NCAA's. One of them will be an Auto-Bid when they win the Tournament tomorrow. The other two would both be at-large selections OVER UNLV.

    RPI's
    Temple #10
    Xavier #19
    Richmond #23
    UNLV #46

    Get real.

  21. What about OK State? What about Richmond and Utah State's overall body of work? They are not as strong as UNLV's.

    Also, Utah State plays in the lowly WAC. Compared to the wars UNLV has been through in the MWC, UNLV gets the nod.

  22. Richmond is #23 in RPI and will move up in RPI even with a loss against Temple tomorrow. A team with a #21 or #22 RPI is not going to get left out of the dance in favor of #46 RPI UNLV.

    Richmond has ZERO bad losses. NONE. They didn't lose to anybody outside of the Top 100.

    They have a better resume than UNLV. Sorry.

    Utah State is the WAC Regular Season Champions. They had won 17 games in a row heading into the WAC Championship game vs. New Mexico State last night. Utah State has an RPI of #32.

    The WAC #1 will definitely get in before a 4th school from the MWC. That is just a fact. Sorry if it hurts your feelings. Utah State deserves to be in over UNLV.

    Oklahoma State has an RPI of #27. They have several big wins including at Kansas State (a team that destroyed UNLV at the Orleans). Wins over Texas A&M, Baylor and KANSAS puts Oklahoma State into the NCAA's without any questions asked, LONG BEFORE UNLV gets a sniff.

    Keep trying. UNLV is on the bubble, nothing will change that.

  23. UNLV doesn't have the RPI of those A10 teams but look at their records against top 100 RPI teams:

    UNLV 8-4 (.667)
    Temple 9-5 (.643)
    Xavier 10-7 (.588)
    Richmond 9-7 (.563)

  24. You showed one criteria that the selection committee will look at. That is the only one that UNLV wins in!

    Temple is RANKED #17 in the Country. They are definitely getting in before UNLV. NO MATTER WHAT! They are #17 in both AP and COACHES. They are IN.

    Xavier is ranked #24 in the AP Poll. They lost against Richmond today but they still have an RPI that is #19 in the Country. Xavier has no losses to anyone outside of the Top 100. NONE. They are in the dance long before UNLV even gets mentioned by the committee. Sorry.

    Richmond will have an RPI in the low 20's after they play Temple who has an RPI of #10. Richmond doesn't have any bad losses and the Atlantic-10 was on par RPI wise all year with the MWC. Both the MWC and Atlantic-10 deserve to have three teams in the NCAA Tournament.

    Rhode Island and UNLV are both on the bubble. Both would be the 4th selections from the Atlantic-10 and Mountain West. It is likely that both leagues will only be three bid conferences this year. Nothing wrong with that.

    Take a look at both the Atlantic-10 and MWC head to head as conferences. You will find they are very similiar. Both deserve three teams in the NCAA.

  25. I will give you OK ST. What proves Utah State has a better overall body of work than UNLV other than, "oh, the WAC needs two bids, you know, just to be fair"?

    Try harder.

  26. Allow me to throw out there what I think could be the x-factor in all of this, and maybe this is just the conspiracy theorist in me ...

    New UNLV AD Jim Livengood

    He was not only the AD at Arizona while the Cats held the longest current streak of NCAA appearances -- which will end this year -- but was also the chair of the selection committee in the early 2000s. The selection committee is one of the most tightly-knit 'old boys clubs' in all of American sports. You have to think that he has some pull with those fellas.

    Just sayin' ...

    After all, Arizona some how slipped past SDSU and Saint Mary's to get in last year.

    A phone call from Livengood probably has some pull.

  27. I never questioned Temple or Xavier. R.I. will not be dancing.

    Sell me on why Utah State gets in over UNLV. 17 wins in a row over inferior comp doesn't do anything for me.

  28. I didn't say the WAC should have two bids to be fair. I said that Utah State deserves to be in the NCAA Tournament over UNLV and I stand by that.

    Utah State is the WAC Regular Season Champions. That means they won their conference. Utah State had won 17 games in a row going into the game against New Mexico State last night. That is impressive and something that committee should look at. 17 wins in a row to finish the season, they are a solid team. In my opinion, the WAC Regular Season Champ deserves to be in the NCAA Tournament before a 4th selection from the Mountain West. You can disagree with that if you would like, I will not change my opinion.

    Utah State deserves to be in over UNLV. They have a better RPI and they are WAC Champs. UNLV had a good season but a 4th selection from the MWC should not get in over the WAC Champion. Sorry.

  29. Haha, good observation (and not just because it's something we'd want to hear).

    It doesn't seem so wrong when it helps out YOUR team!

    Although, I really, REALLY, don't think there's anything to worry about anyway.

  30. Me either, snyderm, but I think that's the cherry on top which should put some people at ease.

  31. Ryan, that's the political dimension I have been thinking about but haven't discussed yet. There IS pressure out there from all media sources who have the MWC with 4 bids.

    Your Livengood angle definitely has merit.

  32. AD Jim Livengood can call whomever he wishes to call. I hope he has some pull but I will not be holding my breath believing that. The selection committee will do their job to the best of their ability and choose the teams that they feel best belong in the NCAA Tournament. I believe that UNLV belongs in the dance, I hope they see it my way. But I can also tell you that UNLV will be right there on the bubble and a call from Mr. Livengood is not going to change that!

    Committee Members-

    Daniel G. Guerrero (2009-2010 Chair)
    Director of Athletics, UCLA

    Eugene Smith (2010-2011 Chair)
    Director of Athletics, Ohio State University

    Laing E. Kennedy
    Director of Athletics, Kent State University

    Stanley M. Morrison
    Director of Athletics, UC-Riverside

    Jeffrey A. Hathaway
    Director of Athletics, UCONN

    Lynn Hickey
    Director of Athletics, UT-San Antonio

    Mike Bobinski
    Director of Athletics
    Xavier University

    Dan Beebe
    Commissioner
    Big 12 Conference

    Doug Fullerton
    Commissioner
    Big Sky Conference

    Ron Wellman
    Director of Athletics
    Wake Forest University

    http://www.bracketography.com/selection-...

  33. You can have your opinion. Utah State's cupcake crown does not etch out an appearance over MWC #4 UNLV. USU would be a 5 or 6 seed in the MWC, not champs. Same reason why the Big East gets more in than the MWC. Big East > MWC, therefore Big East receives more bids. MWC > WAC, therefore MWC receives more bids.

    Your Aggies do not dance in front of UNLV. Sorry.

  34. Florida has an Athletic Director.

    Virginia Tech has an Athletic Director.

    Minnesota has an Athletic Director.

    Every school on the bubble has an Athletic Director and alot of those schools/conferences have representatives that are on the committee! The MWC has NOBODY representing us in there, nobody that can cut deals behind closed doors.

    Our washed up AD is not going to make a difference.

    The Big Boy schools know how to make calls also.

  35. WAC reg season champ does NOT equal auto-bid. Only the WAC Tourney winner gets an auto-qualifier. Sorry.

  36. MWC with 3 bids is > WAC with 2 bids

    Sorry to break the news to you. Do the math.

    Utah State has earned their place in the NCAA Tournament long before UNLV should be in. The WAC Regular Season Champ who won 17 games in a row should not and will not be left out in favor of a 4th school from the MWC. Especially a school that has a #46 RPI.

  37. Their 17 meaningless wins are worthless. The WAC has no other team with an RPI top-50 ranking.
    Sorry to break the news to you, but you're using fuzzy math again.

    Here's the dagger to your argument, however: Virgina Tech. Not dancing over UNLV. Not a chance.

    Prove otherwise.

  38. Virginia Tech is an interesting one. They are 23-8 vs. Division I schools. UNLV is 24-8 against Division I schools. Records are almost identical.

    Both UNLV and Virginia Tech both had a miserable strength of schedule. UNLV's improved alot in the last two days with games against BYU and SDSU. Virginia Tech didn't get out of the 1st round of the ACC Tournament so their SOS didn't get that extra help that UNLV received in large part because they played the tournament at home.

    Virginia Tech is ranked ahead of UNLV in poth the Ken Pomeroy Rankings and Jeff Sagarin Rankings. UNLV leads in the RPI.

    Since UNLV and Virginia Tech have basically identical records. VT has only one loss to a team outside the RPI Top 100 while UNLV has two losses.

    The ACC is the #3 Basketball Conference in the country and the MWC is the #6 Basketball Conference in the country.

    Toss Up! Committee probably goes with the ACC.

  39. Go Aztecs!

    And I hope you Rebels fans get an invite too.

  40. You're conveniently leaving out the Hokies' 3-7 record versus RPI top-50 opponents and their best OOC win being against Seton Hall. Also, the Hokies' SOS is almost twice UNLV's.

    As you know, there is no need to flip any coins. UNLV gets the committee's nod.

    Would you please post another list reflecting the proper field? Thank you.

  41. I hope you Spaztecs aren't one-and-done. Unfortunately, you will be. Too bad.

  42. Sufferin has some good points I think he's a little hard on UNLV at times but most fans are. Now while I think we are still in I tend to believe we are closer to the bubble then some of you would like to admit. Look at the track record in 2007 we all thought UNLV was a 4-5 seed including Joe Lunardi what were we a 7. Everyone thought saint marys was in last year and they wern't but who was? UofA . I just don't like leaving it in the hands of the selection committee. On the subject of the WAC regular season champ being left out of the NCAA tournament is crazy they will be in. Will it be over UNLV I don't know but let's all hope Kentucky and duke win " I just threw up in my mouth" but that would definetly help us out.

  43. OK, you convinced me to change on some of my selections. Here is my updated list:

    31 - Automatic Bids
    01. Duke (ACC Winner)
    02. Vermont (America East)
    03. East Tennessee State (Atlantic Sun)
    04. Temple (Atlantic-10 Winner)
    05. West Virginia (Big East)
    06. Montana (Big Sky)
    07. Winthrop (Big South)
    08. Ohio State (Big Ten Winner)
    09. Kansas (Big Ten)
    10. UC Santa Barbara (Big West)
    11. Old Dominion (Colonial)
    12. Houston (Conference-USA)
    13. Butler (Horizon)
    14. Cornell (Ivy)
    15. Siena (MAAC)
    16. Ohio (MAC)
    17. Morgan State (MEAC)
    18. Northern Iowa (Missouri Valley)
    19. San Diego State (Mountain West)
    20. Robert Morris (NEC)
    21. Murray State (Ohio Valley)
    22. Washington (PAC-10)
    23. Lehigh (Patriot)
    24. Kentucky (SEC Winner)
    25. Wofford (Southern)
    26. Sam Houston State (Southland)
    27. Oakland (Summit)
    28. North Texas (Sunbelt)
    29. Arkansas Pine Bluff (SWAC)
    30. Saint Marys (West Coast)
    31. New Mexico State (WAC)

    32 - Locks
    01. Syracuse
    02. Kansas State
    03. Georgetown
    04. Baylor
    05. Pittsburgh
    06. Villanova
    07. New Mexico
    08. Tennessee
    09. Texas A&M
    10. Purdue
    11. Wisconsin
    12. Xavier
    13. California
    14. Maryland
    15. Florida State
    16. Vanderbilt
    17. Brigham Young
    18. Oklahoma State
    19. Texas
    20. Michigan State
    21. Clemson
    22. Louisville
    23. Gonzaga
    24. Marquette
    25. Missouri
    26. Richmond
    27. Georgia Tech
    28. UTEP
    29. Minnesota
    30. Notre Dame
    31. Wake Forest
    32. Utah State

    2 - Bubble Teams
    01. UNLV
    02. Virginia Tech
    03. Florida
    04. Mississippi State
    05. Illinois
    06. Rhode Island
    07. Seton Hall
    08. Arizona State
    09. Dayton
    10 Mississippi

  44. I also should throw in Ohio st could you imagine if Minnesota, miss st, and georgia tech all win? I'm not going to be very relaxed and friends that's life on the bubble. So tomorrow only go Duke, Ohio st, and Kentucky...

  45. Tired of what NCAA basketball has now become...All about the "big dance". I've changed my position over the years and now put more stock in tangible items you can look back at years from now, like a Conference Regular Season & Tournament Championship. Unless you are a top 10 quality team with a chance to win the national championship, does it really matter to get an at-large 8th or 9th seed and then get bounced in the first 2 rounds? That's not something to look back on years later, frankly it's empty and forgettable.

  46. Sorry Suffering, I'm on your side but UNLV is going to get an 8 seed....no way on earth is V-Tech in the same conversation with UNLV. V-Tech best wins are Clemson, Wake Forest and G-Tech, all three whom shouldn't even be in the tourney because they had early round outings in the ACC tourney. Hypothetically speaking ACC should only get in 4-5 teams, since they're just so terrible this year, but bracketology has them getting in 7...which is preposterous. V-Tech's RPI vs. the Top 100 is 9-7....all wins aren't convincing whatsoever....they beat Miami who's dreadful, UNC twice, NC State Twice...that account for 5 of the wins already....thy're 3-4 against the RPI top 50, and no wins over ranked teams.

    UNLV's resume is much more effective and promising. 4-2 against ranked teams, 8-5 against RPI top 100, 9-3 in true road games. They already beat out V-Tech on the ranked teams category and true road wins...so that gives UNLV a huge upper hand on selection sunday. So V-Tech is WAYYYYYY out of the question and SHOULD NOT get in the tournament. Funnest thing is if Miss St and Minnesota win today, they're bubble popping V-Tech and other school...lucky SDSU won because they could've been one if they lost yesterday.

    But going back to UNLV...they're absolutely dreadful. Sure, they beat UTAH for the first time this season, 2 claps, they beat BYU on their home floor for the 8th consecutive time, that's not an accomplishment...but then you get TROUNCED, and EMBARRASSED against a SDSU team which we could've EASILY beaten by 20. Since day one with this team, they still remain a big question mark. And now UNLV is in real big trouble because if they get an 8 seed, buh bye tourney. It will be irrelevant once again, especially if we play the likes of G-Tech or another big squad. We will get outrebounded by 10 and we will lose by at least 20. I have no more hope for these puppies, especially after them losing in the finals...they were a joke from day 1. So what I'm hoping for is an 8 seed because its a 10% chance they'll get pass the first game then ofcourse they will get utterly dominated by a one seed. Good chance we'll play either Kentucky or Kansas too....or you better pray and hope we play Duke because we'll only lose to them by about 25...duke and kentucky is 35+.

  47. Tre'Von willis is by far the worst player I've ever seen. I swear, I hope Kruger ripped them a new one in the locker room because that was utterly a disgrace. And I PRAYED ALL LAST NIGHT, hoping UNLV doesn't get into the NCAA after that performance last night..they deserve to be in the CBI those guys are sooooooo BADDDDDDDDDDDDDD.

  48. Btw, if Louisville (according to bracketology) gets a 9th seed, its only fair to give us a 7th seed. One, because we beat them, two, because we have 8 losses and they have 12, three, because we have better wins. Louisville lost first round of the tourney and they're going to give them a 9 seed? Really? Ludicrous.

  49. Been watching (when I could) UNLV since Armon Gilliam and Freddie Banks...before the internet following a team out west was quite difficult (i'm in Kentucky). I feel very good about a spot in the field of 64 for the Rebels...BUT, just to be sure, today (only) I root for Duke and Ohio State. Go Rebels!

  50. Unlv is a lock, the team that should be worried is Cal. The only two tournament team Cal has beat is Washington and Missouri State. Even with an RPI of 19, RPI is very misleading.

  51. Nothing personal Grayback, but some of your comments are idiotic. Sore loser? The Aztecs played a great tournament and your disparaging remarks regarding Coach Fish are moronic.

    GO AZTECS!!!

  52. You're right ksifferman....those are terrible wins, and if you have an RPI THAT HIGH, with only wins like that...RPI loses are credibility. UNLV beat UNR who reached their tourney semi's, Weber St would reached their finals, Louisville who's in, UNM, SDSU and BYU twice and all three are in...yet UNLV's RPI is 46???? Garbage.

    I have a real bad feeling UNLV gets stuck at an 8th seed, faces TEXAS first game and Syracuse is the 1 seed. First of all UNLV will lose by the minimal of 20 against Texas....that's showing them a bunch of respect too, no respect is 30+. But I have that feeling the Committee will throw us in with the Longhorns so my advice to everyone is DON'T WATCH THE GAME!

  53. The Plastic It sounds as if plastic describes you. Because someone posts something that riles your rebel fever you can ridicule them? Your and idiot. You don't have that right. Read the article and move on.
    By the way this big deal about UNLV and the big dance is watsed time. All to soon you delusional rebel fans will turn your television sets off and reality will set it as you wonder what happened. The facts are they really don't belong there anyway.

  54. UNLV is NOT a lock. UNLV is a bubble team. You guys are blind.

  55. History shows the Pac 10 is loved. Do not be suprised if Cal makes it and UNLV does not.

  56. As of NOW, Lunardi has Cal AND UNLV in as 7 seeds...

  57. ...Ryans comment about Arizona slipping in last year as well as Jim Livingood angle...I like UNLV chances even more

  58. UNLV is pathetic. You have home court advantage year in and year out in the post-season tournament and you STILL can't win. Bring the tournament to Salt Lake City and we'll show you what a real team does on its home court.

    By the way, how did the might Rebels do against Utah this year??? It is one of the worst years Utah has had and I don't seem to remember.

    Here is hoping that you make it to the NIT - which is better than you deserve.

  59. Lunardi is showing UNLV a #10 seed? That's a big drop from a #7 seed after losing to SDSU.

    http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketba...

  60. lobo69...

    i think UNM lost to SDSU because hoboson didn't do enough chest pumps during the game .

  61. I see that now...

  62. Is that Tavenari there in the stands watching?

  63. blah blah blah...play it in Buenos Aires, Moscow, Havana, or Burlington, VT

  64. Can I have the Rebels and FANS that were at the BYU game?

    I have been to my fair share of UNLV games, and the crowd was so docile, it was disgusting.

  65. Hey SugarBowl, we beat Utah when we needed to. Acutally, we swept the entire state of Utah(Utah, BYU) in the Mountain West tournament.

    Besides, none of our players have issues punching people during a game (like Henderson did against BYU) How classless, just shows a lack of respect.

    BTW - Speaking of lack of respect, did everyone notice how San Diego State did not stay on the court for the National Anthem? I would have expected more from a city with a big military presence.

  66. The bubble teams are:

    IN:
    Utah State
    VT
    Minn

    OUT:
    Missippi State
    Florida
    Illinois

    Sufferin (rebel robert) is a fraud.

    He has stated ON THIS FORUM that he will never support UNLV as long as Lon Kruger is head coach.

    He is PRAYING we don't make it.

    He called the Sweet 16 run "luck." And said Kruger would never make it back to the ncaa tournament.

    Then when we made it the next year, he (again) called it "luck" and said Kruger would never make it back to the ncaa tournament.

    All year long he's been on here with the NIT talk. And now all of the sudden he hopes we make it.

    He is a liar and a fraud. ZERO credibility.

  67. Aztecs & fans ... Great tourney. No hate from me, a lifetime Rebel fan. I think and hope you guys do well in the tourney. Any wise UNLV fan knows that it is to our advantage to have the Mountain West teams show well. Happily, though, that does not include Utah. "Sugarbowlchamps," go away. You won't even be in the NIT. It would be interesting if the MWC tourney was in Salt Lake, but since it has absolutely no draw, guess we won't have to worry about it. Maybe next year, loser!

  68. Geezus, UK is rolling over. A Mississippi State win is bad news for UNLV, I'm afraid.

  69. OT in the UK Miss. St. game.

  70. MSU, Richmond lost, looks like sufferen's bubble is bursting

  71. kentucky wins.. no stress

  72. Big surprise there Run, I actually hope Suff makes predictions against UNLV because he is always wrong.

    Gotta wait and see what Minn does today, but I still think UNLV is a lock, and a strong one at that with again another win against BYU down the home stretch.

  73. I think UNLV has definitely settled in.

  74. Vegas71 - Maybe if UNLV had done the same, they would've won. HaHaHa. Another sore loser. How about the Tark not standing up when Coach Fish shook his hand after the game (classless). You're all too fat (think buffet lines).

  75. I think Minnesota and Miss St are in regardless of them losing. I know the numbers don't really justify those two making it, but the old classic " eye" test sure has convinced me that those two teams are clearly better than UNLV.

  76. But who really knows? We will all find out in about 2 hrs. I think this year this is where everyone's "bracket genius" Joe Lunardi is going to be a bit off this year.

  77. abalone, you're a flat out moron. Tark has a medical condition that makes it hard for him to walk let alone get up for someone walking in his shadow. I can't think of what's worse; a sore loser or an idiot that doesn't know the first thing about being a humble winner. Why don't you do yourself a favor and take a walk in the middle of the freeway.

  78. Canes, they pass your test because you want them to not because they actually are better. And who are you anyway to make such an 'expert analysis' anyway. I think I'll defer to my dog first.

  79. Fastcamron do yourself a favor and let your dog take a walk in the middle of the freeway. If UNLV played Minnesota or Miss St. on a neutral court that would be a loss for sure, it's not cause I want it to be dough-boo.

  80. oh, MSU and Minnesota played well the last 3 days...so let's let them in as well.

  81. Oh UNLV beat 5 Mountain West bottom feeders and a heavily overrated, non-athletic BYU team in the last week, let's let them in as well.

  82. lol, okay

  83. oh boy, BRACKETOLOGY has us a 10th seed now! Fell 3 spots and wadaya know, they have us matched up with Texas. What did I tell you guys? This is what happens when u lose to a trash San Diego aztec team.....we're definitely either getting the seeding of death, or a 10th seed....hell we might get kicked out of the tourney to be frank.

  84. Schlabach and lunardi both have UNLV as a lock. It will be tough to say that UNLV is in for sure but some of those teams sufferin considers locks are also still on the bubble like Cal, and Utah State (even though they won the WAC), Missouri is still a big Question mark but should still be in. Virgina Tech very much on the bubble. Also, half those bubble teams mentioned don't stand a chance; Seaton Hall, Mississippi, Florida, AZ State and dayton

  85. UNLV is in...no doubt. Minnesota just lost by 30. Not that these are related, lol.

  86. DONE DEAL

  87. dough-boo? Is that English slang or are you the idiot we all know you are and can't spell.

    BTW, the Rebs are in, further proving that you are no where near the prognosticator that you think you are.

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