February 18, 2019 Currently: 41° | Complete forecast


Same old story as UNR keeps cannon, pounds UNLV, 44-26

Rebels struggle to run ball, stop Pack’s ground attack and take advantage of opportunities


Sam Morris

UNLV defensive back Mike Grant hangs his head after giving up a touchdown to UNR during Saturday’s game. UNR won the game 44-26 to run their win streak over UNLV to six.

UNLV vs. UNR Football

UNLV fan Alex Salvo reacts to a penalty late in Saturday's game against UNR. UNR won the game 44-26 to run their win streak over UNLV to six. Launch slideshow »

KSNV Channel 3 sports UNLV-UNR

KSNV Channel 3 coverage of No. 25 UNR's 44-26 victory over UNLV on Saturday night at Sam Boyd Stadium.

No. 25 UNR vs. UNLV

UNR ran its win streak against UNLV to six with a 44-26 victory on Saturday night at Sam Boyd Stadium.

The Rebel Room

UNR POSTGAME: Make it six for the Pack

Ryan Greene, Case Keefer and Ray Brewer discuss everything that was UNR's sixth consecutive victory over UNLV in the Battle for the Fremont Cannon, including Chris Ault's random postgame tirade. Will things get better anytime soon for the Rebels? The guys discuss, starting with what to expect next week when the Rebels travel east to face West Virginia.

Yes, on paper, a 44-26 loss on Saturday night for UNLV against its bitter in-state rival looks better than the 63-28 embarrassment that was the 2009 meeting up in Reno.

But neither first-year Rebels coach Bobby Hauck nor his players cared to look at it that way after Nevada-Reno came to Sam Boyd Stadium and claimed the Fremont Cannon for a record sixth consecutive time.

"What progress? We lost," UNLV senior quarterback Omar Clayton said defiantly. "Every single year I've been here, we've lost the game. There is no progress because we lost the game."

Just as the rivalry's story didn't change, neither did that of the 2010 UNLV football team: A few flashes, a few costly mistakes and a handful of wasted opportunities adding up to make another night filled with growing pains.

No. 25 UNR (4-0) did exactly to UNLV (1-4) what it has done best against the Rebels in recent years by leading up with its rushing attack and keeping things balanced with a bit of aerial flair mixed in.

While UNLV's offense took a step back in terms of using the run to set up the pass, with just 80 yards on 33 team carries, the Wolf Pack used incredible, consistent push up front to rumble for 374 yards on the ground, doing so on only 50 attempts.

And it wasn't star senior quarterback Colin Kaepernick who had to carry the bulk of the load for UNR, as senior running back Vai Taua ran for 188 yards and three TDs on 19 carries. It included a back-breaking 72-yard touchdown jaunt in the second half to make it a three-score game at 38-17 late in the third quarter. He also caught a first half touchdown pass.

The run defense has been the Rebels' achilles heel this season, as the 203 rushing yards per game allowed so far rank 106th out of 120 Football Bowl Subdivision programs.

When asked after the game what methods are left to try and plug the hole that haven't already been tried, Hauck kept it short and simple.

"Gotta recruit," he said.

Even with UNR holding the upper hand coming in practically across the board, you can't say that UNLV didn't have its chances.

The Rebels took advantage of a couple of Wolf Pack miscues and breakdowns in the first half, helping them keep the game tied at 14-14 as late as the twilight of the first half.

But after Taua scored his first touchdown on a 3-yard run with 2:40 to play before the intermission, UNLV's Michael Johnson was tackled from behind after catching a swing pass from Clayton and fumbled, setting up Taua's TD grab on a swing route of his own.

After the half, UNR was driving to try to go up by three scores and showed confidence by opting to go for a fourth-and-one conversion from the UNLV six-yard line. Courtney Randall fumbled the ball away, though, and the Rebels had a chance to come back through the front door and into contention.

What followed was a non-descript three-and-out, and Hauck's club was never again a threat.

Adding some salt in the Rebels' collective wound at the end, on top of the blown opportunities to keep it a game and apply some pressure on the Wolf Pack, were the team's 10 penalties for 132 yards.

"It seems like it's been like that all year," UNLV junior receiver Phillip Payne said. "(The defense) will get a turnover, and we just don't take advantage of it. It's horrible."

UNLV deserved a bit of credit for visibly fighting until the end, which in last year's debacle against UNR was tough to argue in the game's latter stages.

But, again, moral victories offered little consolation, as the lack of resistance to other teams' ground attacks seems to have put a blueprint of exactly how to handle UNLV out on the open market.

"They test you, they continue to test you, and if you get out of gaps, they make you pay," Hauck added. "It's a good offense, and the people running it are awfully good."

Making matters worse for UNLV is that while licking any lingering wounds, the Rebels must again prepare for a juggernaut of an opponent.

Hauck takes his team three time zones to the east next Saturday to face Big East power West Virginia (3-1), who not only features another stellar backfield duo, but will be coming off of a bye week, having had extra time to recover from a 20-14 loss at LSU on Sept. 25.

Mountaineers senior running back Noel Devine is the most talented ball-carrier the Rebels will face all season. The 5-foot-8 speedster has 391 yards on 87 carries this season, and 3,772 yards over the course of his illustrious college career.

Joining him is sophomore quarterback Geno Smith, who in his first full season as the West Virginia Starter is averaging 229.8 yards per game through the air, has thrown nine touchdown passes and only two picks.

In other words, it's yet another opponent on the loaded 2010 schedule who can make the Rebels pay a steep price if opportunities are left on the table.

"We're right there with them, then it just seems like one or two mistakes, little things, and we let it go," Payne said. "(It's been that way) with everybody."

Join the Discussion:

Check this out for a full explanation of our conversion to the LiveFyre commenting system and instructions on how to sign up for an account.

Full comments policy

Previous Discussion: 41 comments so far…

Comments are moderated by Las Vegas Sun editors. Our goal is not to limit the discussion, but rather to elevate it. Comments should be relevant and contain no abusive language. Comments that are off-topic, vulgar, profane or include personal attacks will be removed. Full comments policy.

  1. Last night my family and I went to the rebel game hoping to see the rebs beat up on UNR. What we didn't expect was to see so many people beating up on each other in the tailgating area on the north field before the game. We like to hang out in the field before the game, but last night was rediculous with the violence. Fights were all over the place, and it seemed to get worse as the game got closer. Leaving the field for the game, I saw a black guy, his face covered with blood, running from the field toward Tropicana in order to get away from whoever did that to him. There were a lot of cops trying to stop it, but no one who was beating on each other seemed to care. Drunks outnumbered both the cops and the families like mine that wanted to just have a good time. I don't know why nothing is done about this, its out of control with the drinking and the violence. It seems to happen with every game. To top it off, UNR kept the cannon. I still support Bobby, though, he's got a tough task but I believe in him. I just wish going to see UNLV play at the stadium was safer for my family and I and I didn't have to worry about them getting hurt from the drunks fighting and the bottles flying on the tailgate field.

  2. good, otherwise Metro would commandeer the cannon and start using it against us.

  3. Was at the game last night, we simply don't have enough talent. The players have heart and guts, but they can't execute the necessary plays at the D-I level for more than a quarter or two. We're overmatched and need to do better recruiting.

  4. I'd agree. I think its impossible to make any judgment on Bobby Hauck now. UNLV lacks talent. No coach can win like that, college or pro.

  5. Nevada (not UNR) won the game. It is funny, the only group of people that refer to the University of Nevada as "UNR" is the lame media from Vegas.

    Perhaps they should watch ESPN or any other national news media to learn that the University that is located in Reno is the University of Nevada. It is a pretty simple concept.

    Six in a row, very nice!! I think Rebel fans will be happy with Coach Hauck, he is a solid coach and will improve the program. It would be nice to see both Nevada schools have good football and basketball programs, we are 3/4 the way there.

  6. When asked after the game what methods are left to try and plug the hole that haven't already been tried, Hauck kept it short and simple. "Gotta recruit," he said.

    Ouch. Thats got to help. How about giving the defense a rest instead of three and out.

  7. Funny Hauck says "gotta recruit." That has to sting for his current players, but at least he says it like it is. Truth hurts.

  8. i think unlv needs to look at football and see if that's something we really want to be doing. unlv hasn't been competitive for nearly a decade. it's difficult to recruit when there is such a legacy of failure. having the stadium a 20 minute car ride from the campus doesn't help either. if unlv wants to recruit better they need to offer a better program with better facilities. i don't think their difficulties are a result of poor recruiting efforts. i'm sure unlv tries just as hard as any other school to sign top talent. but we lack the facilities and history to get those top players. and until we change that i'm afraid unlv football will continue to suffer.

  9. Ryan-
    Did they review the Michael Johnson fumble in the first half? We all thought his knees were down but we weren't sure. It was a pretty crucial play.

  10. hey at least they covered

  11. Hey Superbabd,not true. I saw signs that said UNR from UNR fans.

    I think it's great that they are giving our state some good representation as "Nevada," but when they come down here they will always be UNR. They will always be RENO!

  12. Superbad,

    That must have been three UNLV students I saw in the stands on TV with a U-N-R painted on their chests. NOT!

  13. the reason there is so much drinking @ vegas football games is obvious: nobody can stand to watch that team play if they're sober. Also, every "cannon" game I've ever been to in vegas has fights, rebel fans are the most classless, ignorant and violent group of losers in college football history.

    It is so funny that vegas people refuse to acknowledge Nevada and continue to use UNR when talking about athletics. Get over yourselves.

  14. BTW: Nobody even cares anymore that the the Sun and rebel fans refuse to use the designation "Nevada" when writing about Wolf Pack athletics, while continuing to use 'UNR.' It is incorrect, but why let something like a fact get in the way of trying to make yourselves feels better regarding your obvious inferiority complex?

    see ya in the MWC when we'll have a regular chance to whoop on ya in all sports in front of the whole country!

  15. The correct designation is the University of Nevada, Reno. Even the official website is even www.unr.edu. If anything, the athletic use of Nevada is the one that's incorrect, similar to Wisconsin-Madison being called Wisconsin. (By the way, in the Badger state, almost no one says UWM for Madison, to avoid confusing it with UW-Milwaukee).

    The drinking and fighting happened on BOTH sides. I'm not surprised and to William, other UNLV football games I've been to haven't had this problem. You just chose to go to the game of one of the nastiest rivalries in the country.

    The article sums it up pretty well. No run defense, couldn't capitalize on turnovers, had costly turnovers ourselves at inopportune times, etc.

    BTW go_wolf_pack: You're not only incorrect in your Nevada vs. UNR argument, your other arguments are also full of hyperbole and fallacious. In other words, you simply aren't a person to take seriously.

    I'll enjoy when Boise exposes the Wolfpack as pretenders. ;)

  16. Stop calling Nevada "Reno". No one refers to other schools as Berkeley (Cal) or Eugene (Oregon) or Athens (Georgia) or Austin (Texas). Sorry UNLV, but UNR will always and forever be referred to as NEVADA.

  17. UNR or Nevada? Relax. Who cares? It's not like the media mentions you guys that much--Your university is probably mentioned twice a year here in LAS VEGAS--even less on the national scene.

    As for the rowdiness, I have to agree that it was pretty bad. However, we have to remember, that when we play teams with fans that travel to Sam Boyd, we are going to have to deal with the rowdiest, most obnoxious fans that these teams have to offer. They are here to go crazy. And, yes, they did last night (and when Wisconsin was here). Our crowd is a mix of some crazy Rebel students and many families. It's just a tough mix that resulted in a lot of UNR fans harrassing Rebel families (with children) who weren't looking for trouble. It must happen at every rivalry game in the world. We have to remember, we are one of a couple teams that serve alcohol in their stadiums. Puking, stumbling, spilling, and harrassing are the result. Maybe we should have an alcohol-free section (like some NFL stadiums have) and maybe some alcohol-free parking areas. I think that the drunken harrassment that happens in the lot and in the stands are some of the reasons why a lot of our fans stay home. That is a shame. We need our fans at the game.

    Rebel fans, these are some tough years that we've had to endure, but our day will come and the Fremont Canon will be back!

  18. UNR has a good football program, that hasn't been in question, they have been flirting with Really good this year, but i wouldn't get all excited over a win at UNLV. I don't think UNR would have the record it does now playing UNLV's schedule.

    Hypothetical: and i'm being generous. Though UNLV Would kill for a 7 - 5 season, it isn't good. So UNR fans should relax until they win some real games.

    Wisconsin L
    @ Utah L
    @ Idaho W
    New Mexico W
    UNLV W
    @ West Virginia L
    @ Colorado State W
    TCU L
    @ Brigham Young W
    Wyoming W
    Air Force L
    @ San Diego State W

  19. Absolutely classic. We get our butts handed to us, again, and the first thing UNR's Head Coach can talk about is what his opponent calls his team??? Are they kidding up there? You're lucky we don't call you everything but white. My wife a third generation Nevadan commented about why the flag-twirlers for UNR only had Nevada on their little signs. She thought maybe they were a Flag-twirling team that represented both teams during the UNLV/UNR games. I kinda chuckled at that thought then explained the not so long simmering feud between UNR and 99.9 percent of Clark County.

    You see while UNR would love for us (99.9% of Clark County)to believe that the moniker for their athletic department and its teams should be "Nevada" simply because they and ESPN/Nation News media says so it's simply not going to happen. Nevada has 2 major FBS Football programs and therefore the differentiation between the schools should be the location aspect of the name that is shared between the schools. While UNLV enjoyed early success in both Basketball/Football at the major college level in D1-A we looked to the future when our little sister school, UNR, in the North could maybe one day have the same success we enjoyed and we identified ourselves as UNLV so as not to sow the seeds of confusion about which school in Nevada was being discussed.

    That made a lot of sense to her, since her Grandfather, who lived in Nevada his whole life, referred to UNR always as UNR, not Nevada or Reno. So don't be mad UNR fans, we here in Clark County have been doing this for a longtime, you kids should try to shed your teen angst and accept the fact that it is really you who is new to the Major College athletics side of the Nevada coin and while you enjoy this sudden thrust into the National Media spotlight your Big sister school is enjoying your success too, finally.

    Now remember to call your Mom and Dad when you finish your drive back to Washoe County they worry sick about that drive north. Isn't it sweet how grown up our(Clark County) kids act when they come home to visit from schoolie up in Reno? Love you and be safe. (look at them go, all sloppy drunk and angst ridden, brings a tear to my eye really) ;-)

  20. No pretty much the entire city refers to UNR as UNR because you are UNR, not the self proclaimed title of Nevada that you bestowed upon yourselves.

    University of Nevada at Reno = UNR. Your little p-envy fascination with being called Nevada is downright hilarious.


  21. When UNR finally steps up to a real Major College Athletics conference in 2012, after the rinky-dink WAC allows them to join the rest of the MWC, I can hardly wait to see the comments from the UNR fans about getting a beat-down on a regular basis from the majority of UNLV's sports teams. Crowing about your football programs prowess translating to your whole athletic program is silly and clearly out of touch with reality. Let BYU serve as a reminder, karma is a murderous mistress and your day of reckoning will arrive soon enough.

    Besides little sister remember it was UNLV that lobbied to get you into the MWC and will more then likely have to foot $2.5 million to help you buy yourselves out of your WAC contract. Try to remember without UNLV, people around the country would be saying UNR who? Irrespective or what your little wikipedia article says you belong to the University of Nevada System of Higher education and your location is in Reno. Opt out of the public school system and we'll all call you Santa Clause State if you so choose but while we foot your bills we will call you the little school in the littlest city in Nevada. Your tantrums about what 83% of the rest of the Nevada population calls your little school while cute, grow tedious. While we pay your bills you will accept what we call you. With that said be thankful it isn't what the guy sitting behind me last night was calling your portly cheerleaders...wow. If not for the foundation UNLV athletics layed nationally UNR would still be known as the school Charles Mann graduated from...."Arent they still in the Big Sky conference?" "No they are in the WAC, whatever that is." ;-P

    Now you guys stop being so mad all the time and get good grades we need you back down here in Clark County to fill the jobs being created to support Washoe County's infrastructure.

  22. Hardly anyone outside of our state (or the WAC) has heard of the University of Nevada at Reno. I couldn't count how many times I have to explain that there is another university besides UNLV in our state. A lot of people in our state haven't heard of it either. So don't complain that people call it UNR or Reno. Just be happy that it's acknowledged at all. When you enter the Mountain West, all the other fans will be introduced to you for the first time. I wonder what you'll be referred to as. UNR.

  23. UNLV's football team is pathetic, although this schedule is crazy. Every team UNLV has lost to other than Idaho is ranked and they still have TCU, Air Force and WVU. Ouch.

    To UNR fans: UNLV kicks your ass at basketball every year, and that's the sport that Las Vegas cares about.

    To Case Keefer: Please retire or at least resign from your current job for saying that UNR has a chance of playing in a BCS game. I couldn't comment on the previous article. They wouldn't have a chance if they went 20-0.

  24. Hmm, when I type in http://www.nevada.edu, do I goto UNR's website? Why no, I go to a website that provides links to both UNLV and UNR. To see UNR's head coach Chris Ault (or does he like to go by Christopher Ault?) reaction was truly hilarious.

  25. Coach says "gotta recruit, but the usual suspects. Are pretty much now as they were last year. Especially at the skill positions. Perhaps if Clayton was correctly evaluated(as the starter), and they(coaches) were not given to their(expertise?), perhaps we would have progressed so more further by now. Maybe the scoring would have been there. And maybe we would have been more competitive in these past games. Except" oh we wish Claussen hadn't performed so well during camp"! I get the schedule is tough, but the offensive starters are pretty much right were is was last year, only now in week 5. The players are the same, only the shot callers are different. PUZZLED!!!!!!!!

  26. Catdaddy... The team was 5-7 last year with an NFL caliber offensive lineman, defensive end/LB and WR.. Who are all gone. If we had gone 8-4 last year against the same schedule we have this year then I'd understand your point, but the truth is we have an inconsistent QB, a bunch of young WRs surrounding Payne, an improving offensive line, and RB by comittee that combined to average like 2 ypc against RENO. There's also very little speed and only a handful of playmakers on defense, and if our secondary depth gets any thinner they are gonna have to start having WRs play both ways. it's possible for us to still win 3-4 (Wyo, BYU, CSU, Hawaii) more games this year which, considering the schedule, would actually be an improvement over last year.

    And Clausen played a fair amount at QB last year as well so it's not like he had no experience or potential.. Hauck is absolutely right, they need to recruit.

  27. Want to find quality athletes who are fast,quick,strong,good height,good weight,committed to the sport,have decent grades,and plan on walking the walk for the sheepskin? Try the Houston area,UNLV could pick up 12-18 quality division 1 kids from that area..The valley of Texas (Brownsville area) out of the 20 or so high schools in the valley 15-20 kids a year slip thru the cracks and go un-recruited who could be really good division 1 football players by their soph.year. It's out there man!!!

  28. Oh, little Reno Tech. So much drama over what to call you. You win your sixth in a row over UNLV and instead of focusing on a great season, you get your little blue panties in a wad over being called UNR.

    Remember this always, you represent little more than Washoe County. Maybe Elko, too. And feel free to take West Wendover. But 'Nevada'? Not so much.

    I will give it to the dirt miners from Reno Tech: They are ambitious. Next thing you know they'll want to be called 'University of the Entire Great Basin'. Or the University of the Western U.S.'.

    Techsters, enjoy your victory. Take it easy on San Jose State. But go home. You've been down here waaaaay too long. Time to get back to what you do best: Mine a little dirt and complain. Those chores may be better accomplished in Reno.

  29. When are you goofballs down south gonna finally wake up and admit that unlv is just equal to the 13th grade ??

  30. Maybe we (UNLV) should consider a step down to D-II football. Having been a student for 4 of the 6 cannon losing years and arguably one of the most hardcore fans in that student section every Saturday home game(Buffalo Wild Wings on away games), I can't help but feel some disdain for the football team. By moving them into a lower division, maybe we can uproot the culture of losing that has infected the program. I'm tired of seeing them walk around campus like they own the place, unapologetic of the shame they bring. Placing them a level below the other sports teams, some of which have been very successful, may give the football players a sense of humility and may inspire them to be driven and to excel. Who knows, maybe one day UNLV and it's players can see moving back into D-I as an accomplishment and not take it for granted.

    Current Student
    Forever Rebel Fan

  31. i know!! to help the budget, CUT out all sports, if the un-educated jocks want to play, make them PAY for all the costs, so the rest of us taxpayers do not have to support such a losing university system...
    OR use the merit system.. win school gets money, lose, they pay us all back....

  32. UNLV-123... I was addressing the fact that the evaluation of several players in camp(Clayton), was flawed.Last year Clausen played in goal-line situations for the most part.Or when Clayton was hurt. Now he is at safety. You always have to recruit! So you and the hauck get an A+++ for stating the obvious!So in week 5 we finally know for sure who should be playing where, well kind of? And don't blame injuries. On offense most of the starters from last year. Except those who didn't graduate or whatever are right back where they started after five weeks. Continuity, pass it along!

  33. Going down to D2 is not an option to stay in the MWC, and it's not going to do the University any favors in the long run. Someone has to lose, at least we have beat New Mexico. We are better than some. If people think that the team is going to go undefeated they are sadly mistaken. The inclusion of Boise to the MWC will, in turn, help UNLV in every aspect.

    Put it this way: If you were coming to visit a program, and see not only who the team is but who they play, that's going to make a huge impact on choosing that school.

  34. Point of clarification. Do yo mean to say that a school can't stay in the conference without D-I football program by rule? or by your opinion?

  35. Did anyone else watch the UNLV defense and wish they had blitzed into the veer? Playing with two safeties deep for a majority of the game does little to help defend the run game. UNLV coaches please be aggressive and try to come up with schemes to put the players in position to be successful. Generic spread plays on offense and fast flow run plays from the I are garbage. Create something for the players to be successful. Stop making excuses about the lack of athletes and try something different. Phillip Payne touches the ball too little. Running boots off the zone with Omar sprinting out of the pocket is good stuff. UNR runs 5 simple plays and we showed no effort to defend any of them. Our offensive coordinator should be fired. Any coach can win with great athletes. The best coaches find ways to win with the athletes they have. ex: Lombardi! Hauck you seemed cool but your weak schemes are going to haunt you in recruiting!

  36. Dropping down to D-II would be two steps down, D-IA -> D-IAA -> D-II, and would not be good at all for the University.

  37. Catdaddy, I don't think you quite get it, but I'll try to give you some supporting facts. Our 2 main problems this season have been 3rd down conversions and run defense.

    1. I can't find the exact statistic, but I know that a majority of our 3rd down conversions last year were on passes from Clayton to Ryan Wolfe (who is no longer here). Losing that 3rd down comfort blanket is a serious deal, and you can see the impact it's having this year.

    2. Our top 4 defensive players last year, in terms of tackles and sacks, were Jason Beauchamp, Quinton Pointer, Star Fuimaono, and Terrence Lee. This year Star is the only one of the four to record a tackle, as Pointer has been hurt and Beauchamp and Lee are no longer with the team. Again, a serious shakeup as there were no real standout replacements for these guys.

    You want to keep harping on the fact that there was a "flawed evaluation" of Clausen in training camp. It was the SAME way last year with Sanford, as Clayton and Clausen split snaps with the first team then as well. Both Sanford and Hauck were high on Clausen as a QB because of how he looked in practice, but unfortunately he couldn't seem to get his act together in the game. Hauck realized this after only 1 half vs Wisconson, and other than the terrible game against Idaho, Clayton has been the QB since. If you think that Clayton was unprepared due to the fact that he wasn't declared the starter coming out of training camp, then I think you're sadly misinformed.

    Here's something else to consider.. Last year's first 5 games were:
    Sacramento State, Oregon State, Hawaii, Wyoming, and Nevada.. which we came out of 2-3.

    This year (with current rankings):
    Wisconsin (#20), Utah(#10), Idaho, New Mexico, and Nevada (#21).. and we are currently 1-4.

    Not to mention we have a new coaching staff and new systems on both sides of the ball.

    Now at some point you, and everyone else, have to get off the "stop making excuses" bandwagon and objectively realize that there are some serious differences with this year's team and obstacles they need to overcome. With the game against Idaho as an exception, I've seen some improvement in many areas of the team every week. The problem has just been consistency with the players executing correctly. But one MAJOR difference is that the players are playing tough for 4 quarters no matter what the situation or score, something that was painfully absent during Sanford's stint as head coach.

    Give it 2 years then you can judge the team, the coach, and the program with more validity.

  38. UNLV-123... Except last year Clayton was named the starter from jump, as he should have this year. And if you look at the the number of plays Clausen played last year. You will see that he was more of the "wildcat" qb. I have not even spoken about the defense yet. Again you get an A+++ for realizing that our run defense is unlike the dam nearby.I am pertty sure I mentioned the tough schedule And I am pretty sure that I mentioned that withstanding the "GRADUATED" players, everything else is as it was on offense. Except it took these coaches 5 weeks to figure that out. Look at who they thought should start, then look at IS starting and then you might see my original point. Didn't say their time won't come, but that they wiffed mightily on several positions.

  39. Catdaddy, Clayton has started 4 1/2 of the 5 games.. Other then him, who exactly are you talking about? I'll reiterate that Clausen starting the first half of game 1 has had absolutely no affect on the performance or record of the team this year. Are you just arguing for the sake of it or do you actually have any facts to support what you're saying?

  40. UNLV-123...We will never know what the effect would have been. You say no cause to that effect. That is not a fact that is conjecture. As are my positions. You say it was one half. I say it was the most impotant half of the season, at the most important position on the field. And my question remains, what did they see that Sanford did not? Oh, there is nothing because they are now at the same solution! Yes, all I have time to do is argue w/ you. Again don't misunderstand me, if I had my way Dixon would have been the starter, but we both know that won't happen. You haven't brought to bear any facts. You have a talent for stating the obvious. You yourself mentioned the running back by committee situation. You didn't refute any of my other comments? Clausen was generally the short yardage qb, last year. That is a fact! And now he plays safety, that is a fact!One is a lefty one is not, that is a fact! Adjustments had to made in the middle of a game, that is a fact! Never said they would have won those games. I said been more competitive, but we will never know because the starting qb, Started on the bench! That is a fact!

  41. Okay.. Now I'm just confused.. You may not know how a football practice works, but the first team will typically work with both the starting and the backup QB. This is especially true in the pre-season where the coaches are unsure of who the starter will be. You're implying that the entire offense was solely prepared to have Clausen as the starting QB and had to make some on the fly extreme adjustments when Clayton was inserted into the offense. This assumption is rediculous and actually made me laugh out loud. The offense would have probably performed better in te first half against Wisconsin if Clayton had started the game, but that's only because Clausen looked slow and overwhelmed by the game's speed. I don't really know how you can assume that the half against Wisconsin has any bearing on the offense now after they've played 4 more games. Maybe you could further explain your in depth knowledge of the QB situation and shed some further light on your reasoning.