Gorman’s Rosco Allen finishes successful UNLV visit, getting closer to a decision

6-foot-9 forward will host in-home visits with UNLV, Stanford and North Carolina before choosing in time for November signing period


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Bishop Gorman’s Rosco Allen dunks on a fast break against Western during a game at Gorman on Tuesday, Jan. 4, 2011.

This much right now is known about the impending college decision that 6-foot-9 Bishop Gorman junior forward Rosco Allen will make: Whatever it is, it will be the right one.

Allen's über-thorough research of his potential suitors appears to be just about complete, as he wrapped up a two-day official visit to the UNLV campus by enjoying dinner with the coaching staff late Thursday evening.

He's taken that visit, he took his official trip to Stanford last weekend, and likely last on the agenda will be a slew of in-home visits — Friday night with UNLV, Saturday with Stanford and Sept. 21 with North Carolina.

All that is certain about Allen's timetable at the moment is that a choice will be made in time for him to sign a National Letter of Intent in November.

"I feel I have gained all the necessary information and now I just have to evaluate and compare different aspects of each university," he told the Sun via text late Thursday night. "(Friday) I'll just be talking about what my thoughts were and I'll ask any questions about the things I wasn't clear about."

First-year Rebels coach Dave Rice and members of his staff will also likely be on hand at Gorman on Saturday afternoon, when the talent-rich Gaels will hold their first open gym of the fall. Coaches from several of the nation's top programs are expected to be in town to both watch and be seen.

For Allen, the official visit was his third trip to meet with the coaching staff on the UNLV campus in the past five weeks. He took two unofficial visits in early August, where he not only got to know the staff better but did some investigation into the school's academic offerings.

This week's visit involved a little more of both.

"In general, the visit was great," he said. "I got to sit down and spend a lot of time on the campus and with the coaching staff, the players. I did a full campus tour, met the president of the school (Neal Smatresk) along with the athletic director (Jim Livengood), the deans and professors from the school of business, the athletic counselor. This visit was different in that everything was able to be done much more in-depth, since I had much more time.

"As far as basketball goes, coach Rice's passion for the game has truly impressed me, and on the other side, the opportunity for me to graduate in three years is great."

Allen's visit to Palo Alto, Calif., last weekend was equally fulfilling. While on the trip with his father, Daniel, Allen had a chance to meet Stanford's Heisman candidate quarterback Andrew Luck and former U.S. Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice while studying up.

He said the biggest differences between Stanford and UNLV was the campus and the overall environment. On paper, the differences are a bit more defined.

Academically, Stanford is as good as it gets on the West Coast.

On the floor, though, UNLV and Stanford have headed in opposite directions in recent seasons.

The Rebels appeared in the NCAA tournament four of the last five years, with the table set for the program to take major strides moving forward under the new regime. Meanwhile, it's been a struggle for the Cardinal since Trent Johnson left to take over at LSU following the 2007-08 season. In 2009-10, the program posted its first losing records both overall and in Pac-10 play since the 1992-93 season. They did the same last season, but now, fourth-year coach Johnny Dawkins has a good deal of young talent to work with and an opportunity to lead the program back to relevancy.

Allen is strong in both realms. The versatile swingman who can score in a variety of ways is currently ranked by as the No. 55 overall prospect in the 2012 senior class. Meanwhile, with much less fanfare, Allen has been a standout in the classroom, too.

"It would be pretty hard (to say no to a Stanford education), but basketball has always been my first love," Allen said. "The education part just came due to my mother pushing me, so basketball is still a big part of my decision."

Allen said he's also taken notice to the already stellar 2012 recruiting class pieced together by Rice & Co. He's long known two of the three commits already in place — California combo guard Katin Reinhardt and 6-foot-8 Gorman teammate Demetris Morant. The third commit in place is Baltimore point guard Daquan Cook. Allen is one of several high-profile targets on UNLV's radar for its final two spots in a class that already ranks 20th in the nation and has at 23rd.

"I feel that I would have a good relationship with all of these commits, which is important to me," Allen added. "Winning is something I want, so of course the teammates I have matters."

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GREENE'S TAKE: "If you want to read between the lines with Allen's comments, it sounds like, of his multiple suitors, UNLV has left the best impression on him. Yes, for the common man, it sounds like it would be impossible to pass up a free Stanford education, but Allen points out that basketball comes first in this decision, and I think it should. If that's really the case, UNLV is the safest choice, in my opinion. North Carolina appears to be trailing big-time, and playing time right away might not be as much of a sure thing there as it is at UNLV or Stanford. And with Stanford, they haven't won much in the last couple of years. Even though there's tons of young talent in place, winning right away appears important, too. With that said, UNLV appears to have the best of both worlds, and that's why I'm sticking with my prediction from a few weeks back that, in the end, Allen will end up a Rebel. Landing Allen would be huge for Rice & Co. for multiple reasons. On top of the obvious infusion of rare talent, it would take off the pressure of rounding out the 2012 recruiting class with a bang. If Allen is in place, they've already exceeded outside expectations. They're still after some top targets, and the most notable of them is obviously Gorman's Shabazz Muhammad — the unanimous top overall prospect in the 2012 senior crop. If Allen commits and Muhammad decides to go elsewhere, then so be it, because UNLV will have made out just fine."

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  1. As much as I understand the recruiting process and respect the time necessary to make a decision, UNLV needs to start hedging their bet with Rosco. He's a great talent and I would love to have him, but the reality is the longer this goes on anything can happen and there is still a lot of talent out there on the list for UNLV. Let's line up some more official visits with some of these guys and make sure we maximize our exposure and possibilities.

  2. you do realize that UNLV has targeted more players than they have available scholarships right?

  3. Yep, and several are very good. First come first serve.

  4. Allen, you just have to recognize this. You get one chance to play for Unlv. You can go to Stanford for education anytime. Get a masters there. That is fine. But if you want a realistic chance at the NBA or professional ball it's Unlv over Stanford. No brainer and thats the kind of decision that an education from Stanford would give you.

  5. If academics are important to this young man how on earth can he pass on an opportunity to attend Stanford

  6. It's gonna come down to basically listening to mom/dad, and get a Stanford education or live the dream and come to UNLV and take the basketball route. I really hope he chooses UNLV. I don't think UNC is really in the mix except for they are UNC and have an already stacked team, so I'm not sure Allen would get playing time right away.

  7. Standford will be very hard to turn down.

  8. Play basketball at UNLV, get your masters at Stanford. Best of both worlds.

  9. Stanford has prestige, but prestige doesn't pay the bills. Passion, ability, and drive pays the bills (and so does the NBA!). Nobody ever asks where you went to school... they want to know who you are and what you can do.

    In Roscoe's case, it seems clear he'll be capable no matter what direction he heads. If I was him, however, I would shoot for the NBA. UNLV probably gives him the best chance to develop and showcase his abilities. Training under these coaches with immediate probability of playing time gives him a great trajectory. If he finishes school in 3 years, and he performs well, he could then head early to the NBA with degree in hand. Mom's happy. He's happy. And, of course, UNLV fans are happy.

    I know you can feel it... Rebel Fans are pullin' for ya Roscoe.

  10. For those of you saying "just get your masters at Stanford".. you need to wake up. Rosco is probably pretty gifted academically, but the reason he's being offered a full-ride scholarship to Stanford is because of his basketball talents. Stanford masters programs are extremely hard to get in to, and graduating from UNLV does NOT help you in that respect.

    However, if he wants to put basketball first, then UNLV is probably the better choice, although I can't see how he can say academics is a factor if he chooses UNLV.

  11. I've watched plenty of people get laid off at my corporate job over the past 3 years and no one cared what school they came from. Results and how you got there matters in the real world. "I graduated in 3 years while playing at one of the most demanding and success basketball programs in the country" is a story you can sell all day in a "real" job interview.

  12. I feel Roscoe has the atributes to play in the NBA or Pro. At 6'9" and with those abilities. He can get paid to just play basketball. You can always go back to school anywhere.

  13. The choice should not be presented to Allen, or anyone else, as a choice between "academics" (Stanford) or "basketball" (UNLV).

    Stanford is a world class academic institution, and UNLV is not at Stanford's level academically. Few schools are.

    But that doesn't mean that by choosing UNLV, Allen will not be getting an education, and will only be playing basketball.

    The opportunities at UNLV may not compare to the opportunities at Stanford, but he can get a very good education at UNLV. Not of the same caliber as Stanford necessarily, but good nonetheless.

  14. If Rosco's main goal is the NBA & it should be then UNLV is the right decision. He will make more money in one year playing in the NBA then he will generate with a Stanford degree in hand. There still is a chance to make the NBA from Stanford but the style of ball Rice will play gives Rosco the best shot to shine and raise his stock IMO. I Don't know we'll see but my gut says he's gonna be a Rebel.

  15. It really depends on his degree choice. Some Unlv degrees are ranked in the nation and even better than Stanford. Our business school is not shabby either, not Stanford, but better than alot of top ranked schools.

  16. This kid has no chance of playing in the NBA. Ryan, you are crazy for agreeing that UNLV is his best choice over Stanford. A kid like him who is talented enough to get a scholarship at Stanford, but a severe long shot at a NBA career should choose Stanford over UNLV 10 out of 10 times.

    I'm a UNLV fan, but I want what's best for this kid.....and I'm willing to put aside my emotions for my Alma Mater.

    Roscoe....take the Stanford's a chance of a lifetime and you can be set for life. If you're a NBA talent (which you're a long shot), go through least if you fail to make it to the NBA you'll have a better chance (1000x) to succeed in life.

  17. @Sinatra711 - You do realize that Rosco Allen already has a profile on, right?

  18. @phillips1990702 - So what? He's ranked #40 on that list and when you click on his name, he doesn't have a "profile".....

    That's a long way from the NBA dude....nowhere even close in my opinion. Do you know how many guys were ranked higher than him in prior years who never made the NBA? The odds are against him.

  19. Actually at 6'9" and able to shoot, the odds are with him.

  20. Good post, newyorkrebel, I completely agree. I think it's pretty comical when "prestigious" institutions like Stanford, Duke, Ivy League schools and others of that ilk tout their "reputation", when in fact the source of their advantages in the academic realm is the disproportionate funding these schools receive. A state University (e.g. UNLV) rarely receives even a fraction of the funding and research grants that these higher priced private schools receive, and therefore are considered, usually by those that attend these schools, to be inferior or somehow less valuable. Education ultimately comes down to what an individual chooses to invest in his/her own. One needs only to look at our current political leadership and their educational backgrounds to realize these "prestigious" degrees are not all they are cracked up to be.

  21. Tiger Woods chose Stanford over UNLV and look how he turned out... Sex fiend.

  22. What the hell does Tiger Woods have to do with this kid? Ridiculous.