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Debating the valley's best kicker

Mon, Sep 19, 2011 (3:07 p.m.)

Las Vegas Sun sports reporters Ray Brewer and Case Keefer engage in a wide-ranging high school football conversation. In addition to their usual recap and upcoming picks, they discuss the area's best kickers.

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  1. I vote for Rowe. I happened to be at the Bonanza v. Durango game and with 1:30 left he sealed the win with a 45 yard field goal that could have easily gone in from 7-10 yards farther back. What I was most impressed about was how calm and collected he was even after being iced with a timeout, having durango fans yelling as loud as possible, and having his own Bonanza fans chanting "Austin! Austin!" It was a pretty neat moment to see. I haven't seen Jay Maddox yet but I hope to see him in the near future.

  2. I'm axiously monitoring this feed now ;D

  3. Wow some Gorman-hate going on and I'm late to the party??

    spxman...that just how it operates at Gorman. The best don't always get onto the field. The coaches are basically puppets. And you are right, that kicker that shanked the Armwood kick is nowhere near their top kicker. But because of politics, they unfairly get a shot. If someone's daddy was an ex-NFLer, they'll get the consideration over superior kids as well. Gorman might just very well be the most political and corrupt football program in the country. Nobody in this city is proud of that school except their alumni which are spread around this town like a plague, and it's pathetic.

  4. CoachDD it is great to see someone else here who knows what is going on. I've said things and have gotten accused of being a hater yet I saw and know everything that was going on there.

    If anyone scouts their practices, you'll see the Fertittas (usually Frank) and Sanchez going to the coaches office. They (the 'tittas) would come to the off-season weight training workouts but only work with their own special kids (and the coaches weren't allowed in there for those sessions).

    It is a horrible place right now for kids to be. Sure, they may be winning, but nothing there is truly earned. But the class of people running the program and the fact the coaches are a bunch of spineless puppets, no thanks. I'd rather lose every game for the rest of my life than be apart of that experience.

  5. Coach DD, as I have posted before I am not a Gorman supporter. But I do think it is quite funny how specific you are about the Gorman program. Ive been involved in high school football and it is clear that you are very disgruntled Gorman parent whose son is most likely a freshman playing on the 2nd or 3rd team. Again, when I was involved in high school football, I had many experiences with parents like you. So please do not disguise yourself as a "coach" with a name like "Coach DD." I am also quite sure that your son's position is either a DB or QB considering how you are calling out the two freshmen in Fertitta and Hong. As I have said before, Hong is very very good and he is one of the best freshmen QB's I have seen. Its not just me. I know for a fact that there will be college scouts/coaches coming to watch him play against Servite in the JV game next week and I have been told by my friends from Southern California who are still involved with high school and college football that several Pac12 schools are already in love with the Hong kid. As for the Fertitta kid, I have seen him play and he is good. He, along with Hong, was selected to the US Army 8th grade All-American game last year and I can tell you that all the money in the world will not get a player in that game if he is not good. Im all for taking shots at Gorman for their unfair advantage in giving full scholarships but you need to call it like it is with players. Just because your son is a 2nd or 3rd string DB or QB on the Gorman freshman team, you should not be calling out kids who are talented. Just tell your son to get better.

  6. Tuasdad is correct. Favoritism happens everywhere and at most private schools with wealthy parents like Oaks Christian, Mater Dei, Servite, etc. But who cares about favoritism as its not favoritism that gives Gorman an unfair advantage. Favoritism just causes infighting within the school as a perfect example is CoachDD's bitterness. The unfair advantage is the Gorman offers full scholarships and the only other school that can do so is Faith Lutheran. The real problem with Southern Nevada high school football is that Gorman is the only private school. California has many private schools and so its more competitive.

  7. Well its not so much the scholarships RayC, they also don't have to follow the zoning boundaries that the other schools do. There may be open enrollment, but only certain schools are eligible and spots are limited.

    Gorman entices a family with promises and even the coaches get involved with transporting players to/from practice, namely the ones on the other side of town with families who can't afford to take off work.

    Everyone knows it. Just the NIAA won't do anything about it. Why have rules when they won't enforce them?

    That's why Nevada football is a joke. Gorman might be ranked, blah blah blah, but cheating to get there just shows how pathetic they are.

  8. Coach DD
    I must agree you sound like a disgruntled parent but didn't you son get a sweat suit like everyone else and doesn't you son get feed after the game also ? I do agree with you about the favoritism that goes on at Gorman like you mentioned about the kicker they use, I'm using your statement (The only reason why Kline kicks for Gorman is because his mom is buddy buddy with the Fertittas', ) such a true statement well at least he will be remembered for not coming thru when needed and giving Gorman it's first loss EVER at their stadium such a legacy to be remembered for (perhaps Daniel Jackson is right he would be a better golfer as stated on Aug.28th ) I'm quoting his statement quote "Kline...poor lil' kicker. Here's a kid that looked scared stiff on the sideline for about 3 minutes just praying he wasn't going to get called in to save the game. But this is also a player that has had his roster spot purchased and should be carrying a golf bag" anyway enough about the poor little kicker.
    I hear a lot about the Fertitta's I think it's great the way they support their team with sweatsuits and everything else the kids receive especially feeding the kids after the game if you are really a Coach shame on you ! You should appreciate the time and effort the Fetitta's put in for the program I'm sure you son does.

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