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October 22, 2014

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Letter to the editor:

Patience for a pervasive problem

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I am against illegal entry across any nation’s sovereign borders. Ironically, the undocumented in this country now find fault with our laws and immigration system. And, they are demanding that we fix the system. The problems created by illegal entry into this country were created by … the undocumented.

I like to believe; however, that I am also a realist. The root cause of the problem has been the thousands of businesses willing to aid these individuals. Either through nonfeasance or malfeasance, we have corrupted the system.

Meanwhile, millions of Americans stood idly by and did nothing to prevent the problem from happening. In the process, we have failed these people, this nation and the Constitution

It may not be problematic to deport 11 million people in the country illegally. If the problem of deportation were undertaken one state at a time, over a period of years, millions could be deported and millions would follow for fear of being arrested.

So, what is the solution? We helped create this problem; we need to fix it, amicably. Not everybody is going to be happy with the solution. To those, I would say, “Get over it!”

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  1. "The root cause of the problem has been the thousands of businesses willing to aid these individuals. Either through nonfeasance or malfeasance, we have corrupted the system."

    I totally agree with this statement and any immigration solution must severely penalize this practice.

    Early in his letter the writer claims to be a realist then belies that claim by opining that deporting 11 million people may not be "problematic".

    The immigrants are here and living in a shadow world that is neither American or foreign but grants them de facto amnesty as long as their actions don't draw attention. We can either reform the system and bring them out of the shadows or let the situation fester and the corruption continue.

  2. Between January and March 2013, the number of immigrants coming over the border of Texas has tripled. Why? In anticipation of immigration reform and possible amnesty. If we can't enforce border security for a few months, pending passage of the bill, how will it be done for 10 years? It's the Achilles heel of the gang of 8 Senators and the Immigration Reform bill in the Senate. And Senator Rubio, who is staking his political career on the reform, is too naive to know and accept it.

    Carmine D

  3. While we cross borders and invade other countries in an attempt to take their resources, we complain about people crossing our borders because businesses here hire cheap labor.

  4. @VernosB.....you are mistaken sir. The United States does not invade and loot. We overthrow the elected government, establish a new government and purchase those resources with lawyers, guns and money [my apologies to Warren Zevon].

  5. I too wonder why little is done about employers of undocumented folk. I would not, however, go so far as to say, like the letter writer, that employers are "aidin" the undocumented. I suspect that employers are aiding themselves and their bottom lines, both business and professional. Commenters like Roslenda often claim that the undocumented pay no taxes. Not true since its hard to avoid sales, fuel, property taxes and the like. Income and payroll taxes are different. Obviously if you participate in the cash economy, as do many Nevadans, then tracking that income and collecting taxes is difficult. Many undocumented, though, can document that payroll and income taxes are witheld. The question then becomes..."Where did the money go?" Into the hands of the IRS or into the pocket of the employer? Seems to me that if you are a believer in free markets you can't pretend that the market for labor is not much different than the markets for other services and goods.

  6. wharfrat - "@VernosB.....you are mistaken sir. The United States does not invade and loot. We overthrow the elected government, establish a new government and purchase those resources with lawyers, guns and money [my apologies to Warren Zevon]."

    Very true, we don't need to invade or threaten to do so. That was proven by John Perkins in his books "Hoodwinked" and "Confessions of an Economic Hitman."

    Future - "Whar is right look at what Obama did in Eygpt and Libya - now we have extremist Muslims running them"

    Versus the extremists and dictators who ran them before Obama? More comments from Planet Bizzaro. You sound like Sarah Palin who commented about how great democracy was working in the middle east not knowing Hezbollah was the party elected to power.

  7. It seems everyone has a say about illegal immigrants living and working in this country.Most Americans would support a bill to deport illegal immigrants from our country.

    Some of these same Americans will use illegals at the same time when the price for work being done at their homes is cheaper then licensed, legal and insured contracters.

    Take for instance former Presidental candidate Mitt Romney,who lost last year's election to Pres.Obama's re-election.The former Governor used illegals at his home on Marsh St.in Belmont, Massachusetts for a decade having landscaping done by illegals on his two and one half acre spread. He was exposed as far back as 2006 for using illegals.

    When it comes to saving money some people will talk out of both side of their mouth.

  8. "Self deportation" when they cannot find work here and cannot receive welfare, free housing, food bank gifts. EXPEL those who cannot show they ENTERED LEGALLY. Deportation takes time and money. We don't need to point fingers at someone who mistakenly pays/hires illegals--there are so many all over the place that who can tell.

  9. Rat 7:18 I have NEVER said illegals don't pay any taxes. Some pay the FICA on earnings. I have said and maintain that illegals do NOT PAY ENOUGH TO cover their costs. Another amnesty would add AT LEAST $4 TRILLION to the national debt. It would also further harm our way of life, our culture, our kids, our chance at retirement.

  10. It is reasonably well documented that illegals have submitted numerous FRAUDULENT claims for tax refunds for money they did NOT pay in--claiming dozens of dependent children.

  11. I find it amusing that the party of "stupid" who know they have a terrible image can't seem to get it together. Do they really want the hispanic vote?

    "The Wall Street Journal's Washington Wire tweeted On Friday afternoon that Jason Richwine, the co-author of the Heritage Foundation's much maligned study on immigration has quit."

    Richwine wrote, "The average IQ of immigrants in the United States is substantially lower than that of the white native population, and the difference is likely to persist over several generations. The consequences are a lack of socioeconomic assimilation among low-IQ immigrant groups, more underclass behavior, less social trust, and an increase in the proportion of unskilled workers in the American labor market."

    Hmm ... sounds pretty familiar doesn't it? Oh yeah, that was said about blacks when they wanted to join the military, or wanted to vote, or wanted the same rights as everyone else.