Whirlwind recruitment is nearing a close for Bishop Gorman’s Johnathan Loyd

5-foot-8 senior guard will visit Oregon this weekend, then make his decision known


Justin M. Bowen

Bishop Gorman’s Johnathan Loyd, shown attempting a 3-pointer in the Sunset Regional title game, finished his four-year career with 103 victories. The final win was against Canyon Springs on Feb. 23, 2010, in the state title game.

Shaking Johnathan Loyd's confident exterior is something that Bishop Gorman basketball coach Grant Rice hasn't seen anyone do with ease.

Along with leading the Gaels to back-to-back large-school state titles, the senior point guard simply has earned a reputation as a winner.

He's won 103 games in four seasons of varsity ball, averaging 14 points and 8.2 assists per game while earning the state's Gatorade Player of the Year honor as a senior.

Now, during every minute he spends within the school's confines, someone's asking Loyd where he'll be next year.

Teachers, classmates, everyone.

Meanwhile, Rice has welcomed numerous college coaches into his office and fielded a seemingly endless stream of phone calls and e-mails.

The 5-foot-8 speedy playmaker is one of the nation's most sought-after unsigned seniors.

"It's not bad," he said. "I don't mind people saying I'm a sleeper. I see myself as being as good as anybody else ... just shorter."

For Loyd, just being a self-proclaimed people-pleaser has become increasingly difficult by the day over the last month or so.

Lightly recruited by some of the bigger-name programs in college hoops for much of his prep career, an avalanche of offers changed everything this spring.

And now he can see the light at the end of it all.

"Hectic," he quickly said when asked to describe life of late.

The timeline of events that typically transpire over the course of several months for most Division-I recruits has played out in a matter of weeks for Loyd.

Heading into last week, Loyd was on the verge of making a final decision, set to pick between Northwestern and George Washington.

He'd essentially said "Thanks, but no thanks" to the likes of Oklahoma, Washington State, Michigan State and Florida in the process.

But the two scholarship offers he'd waited for since his freshman year of high school — Oregon and UNLV — didn't come until the 11th hour.

Sunday night, to be exact.

That night pretty much changed everything.

"To have both of them offer me scholarships the same day was just crazy," he said.

For UNLV, he'd long been considered the coaching staff's back-up plan should things fall through with Findlay Prep senior Cory Joseph — a McDonald's All-American who committed to Texas last Friday. Lon Kruger and his staff had been honest all along about it with Loyd, and with Matt Shaw's departure from the program becoming official Tuesday, a scholarship came open.

"It was kind of surprising, because I was hearing all of this talk that they didn't have any scholarships and they were going after a wing and I got the call," Loyd said of UNLV's call on Sunday. "I was just surprised and blessed."

On the Oregon end, long-time coach Ernie Kent spent his final season in Eugene knowing that without an astonishing result, he was more than likely on the way out. The Ducks were a sub-par 16-16 this season, and Kent was relieved of his duties shortly thereafter. Therefore, heavy recruiting was on the back-burner for much of the season for Kent and his staff.

UNLV always has had Loyd's attention, obviously, thanks to the hometown connection. His father, Michael, having played there from 1978-81, and Johnathan's also made a habit of attending open-gym sessions on campus with the team during the off-season.

"They've got young players, for one," he said, talking about the Rebels' positives. "They did good last year and have everyone coming back. And they do a lot of pressuring. That fits my style. They do a lot of running and want more playmakers, so I feel like I could bring that to them."

As for Oregon, the two guys who attracted him to potentially playing there some day are, coincidentally, the two who had a big part in ending UNLV's most successful season under Kruger.

He's long seen himself playing the same role in Eugene as former Ducks guards TaJuan Porter and Aaron Brooks — a pair of sub-6-footers who each could take over a game in an instant.

Porter's hot shooting hand helped bury UNLV in the 2007 Sweet Sixteen, while Brooks now starts for the NBA's Houston Rockets.

"They've always liked small guards, and they're not afraid to play them," Loyd said. "They're in a good conference, and I like their new coach. He was at Creighton, and I always liked him."

That coach — Dana Altman — brings the biggest twist into this rushed recruiting tale.

Altman served as an assistant under Kruger at Kansas State from 1986-89 and extended an offer to Loyd while preparing for his 17th season at Creighton.

As hard as he tried to lure Loyd to Omaha, the interest in the program never was terribly high, though Loyd admits he'd definitely taken a liking to Altman.

Last weekend, Altman landed the gig at Oregon, and one of the first prospects he called was Loyd, who will use his final official visit to head up to see the campus this weekend.

Loyd said he will sit down with the UNLV coaching staff before heading to Eugene for the weekend, then likely come to a final decision early next week after sitting down again with his parents.

At the moment, he said, there's no true leader among his prospective schools.

"The way his recruitment has gone, it's wild," Gorman coach Grant Rice said. "I feel bad. He's shaken up because everything's happened so fast, and it's really strange."

At UNLV, he'd have a chance at playing the "hometown hero" role, which close friend and Mojave High product Anthony Marshall flourished in this season as a freshman. Loyd could play every home game in front of his family and friends and most likely see immediate playing time.

At Oregon, with Porter's graduation plus an avalanche of transfers following Kent's departure, there's the potential to start right away.

Either way, he's in a position where he can't make a wrong choice.

"People want a decision, but I'm just taking my time with everything," he said. "It's better to have (the tough decision to make) than not to, of course."

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  1. Loyd is going to do whats best for himself and not the particular university & thats the way it should be. It is his basketball career that he is in control of, this is what he's played his whole life for, you have to be selfish on your decision making, and take care of yourself. Hopefully UNLV is a better fit for Loyd than Oregon. He will be a game changing playmaker wherever he ends up.

  2. Congrats on your success, Johnathan. Have you seen how LV has embraced Anthony? Imagine how they will embrace you? With your style, you will be a fan favorite immediately!

    It will be a magical run for you if you decide to be a Runnin' Rebel in your hometown. Not many players get to do that. (Reminds me of when Freddie Banks stayed here.) Sounds like everything happened the way it did for a reason with the scholarships at UNLV.

    Hope you decide to stay here. Will always root for another LV native no matter what, but would love to cheer for you every game at the Mack.


  3. Hope we get Loyd, he reminds me of Jacob Pullen on KSt., and I think he could have a good career as a rebel. Oregon is going to be a toss up and rebuilding the next few years. He has great opportunities in both schools though, and I hope we land him.

  4. It would be a sweet pick-up. Best of luck to you Johnathan!

  5. Good Luck, JL!
    Whether you become a Duck or a Rebel, you are LV Pride! I hope we see you in the Mack!

  6. Tough sell fom kruger, come to unlv and redshirt go to oregon and get in the rotation next year.

  7. for*

  8. "Loyd... could most likely see the floor from the go."

    Sounds like all indications are that he would not be red-shirting next season and will be part of the rotation. It'd be best for the Rebels 2 years from now to have Loyd playing with a year under his belt when we have a lot of roster turnover after the upcoming season.

  9. Let's face it, Oregon is not going to turn that program around overnight and they will continue to struggle. UNLV is going to be a Top 25 team the next few years and will be dancing in each of them. I hope he is not too concerned with playing time in his freshman year. He can be a part of something special that Lon Kruger and staff have put together. In the balancing act that is his decision; getting more minutes for a team that will struggle to go .500 and hope for an NIT birth can't out weigh playing for a team that will contend for conference championships and NCAA births. Not to mention playing in front of his home town.

  10. A small team getting smaller!

    What is Kruger doing? We already have JHawk and Marshal.... talk about desperate and trying to save face.

    This is one of the worst jobs of recruiting I've seen.

    No Polee no CJ. Then taking RETREAD like Moser who sat the bench for a bad UCLA team. Then losing Shaw. Fourth place in the Mtn West next year folks behind UNM, SDSU and BYU.

    We're trying to get a 5 8' guard on a team that's mostly loaded at the position and is small to start? What a joke.

    You can keep kissing Krugers butt all ya like but this embarrassing to UNLV and UNLV Basketball.

  11. I can see picking Northwestern over UNLV solely for the academics and the opportunities a NW degree will afford him after his playing career is over.

    But if it comes down to UNLV or Oregon, it shouldn't even be close.

  12. Can't any of you "so called fans" have to stones to be critical of your team?

    This "wait till next year" and being content with being "average" is getting old fast.

    Last years and the year befores "wait till next year" is TODAY.

    This team will never win a NCAA CHAMPIONSHIP under Kruger and staff.

    What's gonna be even funnier is if this kid Loyd passes on UNLV as well. If he's smart HE WILL.

    We have enough guards. Anyone who has any brains can see we are guard heavy and small. We don't needs guards we need bigger, athletic, talented players at the 4 and 5 spot.

    Kruger can't recruit and this team will never be any better than a good team under him.

  13. Loyd will make the correct choice for him.

    His Gorman Coach Grant Rice is pure class as is Grant's older Brother Dave Rice at B.Y.U.

  14. I could see if Loyd was a 6 3' or 6 4' guard who could play the 1, 2 or 3 spot. I then could be more understanding. He could also help REBOUND some.

    We need more guys that can play above the rim and REBOUND. We can't REBOUND the ball and we are taking a 5 8' guard when we are loaded with guards?

    Sad how Kruger has to save face and take guys for positions we don't need. Where are the bigger, athletic, talented players at the 4 and 5 spot. Athletic, long guys who can play inside bang and REBOUND?

    I'm not talking RETREADS I'm talking 4-5 star recruits coming out of HS. Where are they and why are they not coming to UNLV?

    WHY ARE WE BEING OUT RECRUITED BY THE LIKES OF UNM, SDSU, BYU over the past 3 years? Connect the dots and do the math.

  15. Hoops - you're a joke. Moser is 6'8". QT is 6'8" Lopez is 6'11" Glaze is 6'6" Buckley is 6'9" Marshall's wingspan is ridiculous.

    The only thing embarrassing is you. What happens when all our guards graduate? you don't stop recruiting positions because you're set for next year. you're probably one of the same guys that says the same things about Kruger with a different name because you got banned.

  16. The guy was also being recruited by Mich St and Oklahoma. I think he is a pretty good player. And if he is anything like his brother at BYU- well he would be a good get.

    Buts Hoops is right about one thing- Kruger is not getting top big guys. Santee was a joke and Massamba, while improving, is not a major college player. I hope Lopez and QT are alot better than those two were/are.

  17. Hoops (trolling sufferin clone), give it a rest. The attitude of NCAA championship or bust isn't realistic for a team that has only been to the sweet 16 once since Tarkanian was ousted. It's good to have lofty goals but it's highly unlikely that the Rebs will be able to compete for a national championship within the next 3 years without paying for players and violating NCAA rules. I loved the Tark years but I don't miss the constant scrutiny and the constant ragging that still comes along with being a UNLV fan.

  18. I've got $20 that says Loyd ends up a better college player than Polee. Loyd would be an ideal fit for the Rebels. Knock down three point shooter and extremely quick. He'll get PT right away with the Rebels.

  19. @Hoops

    Are you suggesting Kruger should be held responsible for Matt Shaw's actions? Do you really think any coach wants to lose a player due to a failed drug test? Your just talking out your ass at this point.

  20. Hoops-

    I laugh out loud as I read your posts. Always regurgitating the same old rhetoric - UNLV cant get 4-5 star recrutis, only gets transfers (RETREADS), NIT bound year in year out, other MTN West teams out recruiting us, wait till next year, and Im only being critical of UNLV basketball because no one else will. Oh it always brings a smile to my face. Loyd is a solid guard and great recruit. He is the more prototypical PG who facilitates ball movement . We miss this when Bellfield is not on the court. Marshall can handle PG but better utilized as a SG in scoring mode. Hawkins is good defensivly but needs to improve ball handling and passing for PG duties. Loyd would get playing time next year and although not quite the scorer that CJ would have brought I believe he can handle and distribute just as well (8 ast). Amazing athlete who also excelled in football. If he signs with us he would be the fastest and quickest player on the court next year. We do need to improve on rebounding but that hopefully will be addressed through QT and Lopez and should not be a prerequisite for recruiting a PG.

  21. jrrebel:

    I agree about Polee. The guy is a good athlete who can dunk. Besides that he has no game. And if he was like his daddy (I was at UNLV when Dwayne Polee came as a freshman, then transferred to Pepperdine because he was homesick), we don't need him. Let him go to St. Johns who has been a non factor since 1986.

  22. Plastic, c'mon most of us fans would suffer through a lifetime of ribbing about being a UNLV fan for even one more championship.

  23. Bellfield is the only legitimate PG we have so UNLV does need Loyd. IMO Jasper is finished, he will never be the same again after that many knee injuries & surgeries it becomes mental. As already stated above QT & Lo will address inside needs. QT dominated many practice games inside & on the glass this year. I'll take a 6'8 mean & tough Jersey baller who plays 1 1/2 feet above the rim over a 7'0 stiff who cant jump over a pancake anyday.

  24. Yeahhhh right. Take a 5 8' guard when you can't rebound and your roster is mostly heavy with guards and small.

    Keep coving for Kruger.... you guys are so full of it.

    Understand boys and girls you can still be a fan and be critical of a team. It helps to light a fire under them now and then. Get some stones.

    Kruger can't recruit 4 or 5 star kids coming outta HS. He gets retreads and good players not GREAT coming outta HS. It is what it is folks.

    It's so bad we can't even address needs at this point so we take the best player we could get. I don't know what games your watching but the reason why we lose to bigger, faster teams isn't because of our guard play. We need big guys in the 4 and 5 spot that can rebound, flat out ball and play above the rim. So we get a 5 8' guard?

    That's real smart recruiting! Never fear "wait till next year"

    Last years and the year befores "wait till next year" is TODAY.

    Wake-up already.. this is a on going problem year after year. HOW MUCH MORE IS IT GONNA TAKE FOR YOU TO SEE THE WRITING ON THE WALL?

    We are being out recruited. Do the research and call it for what it is. Be a lil critical.

  25. Grandy Glaze. 4* recruit. I'm sure you guys will find a way to diminish his 4* rating.

  26. Lopez...I don't think so.

    QT will be very good. We need about three more like him.


    What's gonna be funny is if this Loyd kid turns us down..

    Trust me I will be partying on the strip if somehow that Polee kid desides to come hear after all. We need to get bigger, even more now since we lost Shaw. We don't need a small guard.

  27. Hoops

    I love it! -Keep coving for Kruger.... you guys are so full of it, still be a fan and be critical of a team, Kruger can't recruit 4 or 5 star kids, Never fear "wait till next year", We are being out recruited. Do the research and call it for what it is. Be a lil critical.

    I bet you cant go a post without typing these talking points. Its great! QT and Lopez have practiced all year and Kruger feels these two will pick up the rebounding deficency. Part of the agenda was recruiting a PG and loyd fits that bill. Polee was a nice prospect but Moser is in the similar mold and will have a year to fit into the program. You should really think about following a different team or sport;)

  28. hoops sure does sound like another troll we have on here. Keep hating, it's ok.

  29. I wonder how good a recruiter Reggie Theus was at NM State. Seems to me like he got some great players pretty fast. Interesting... :)

  30. Hoops-

    Why are you so sky high on Polee? He isnt even on your radar because he is not a 4 or 5 star recruit. Polee at 6-7 and 190lbs. does not equate to a big. I agree with previous posts who state Loyd will have a greater positive impact than Polee in the college game. Loyd could turn us down and I really wouldnt be suprised. Oregon looks good based on facilites, his relation with coach, and immediate playing time and possibly starting.

  31. I wish the picture showed the floor beneath him so people could see the lift he gets. He plays much bigger than his height. He will be a good recruit for UNLV.

  32. sct2k6

    quote: "I bet you cant go a post without typing these talking points. Its great"

    Don't worry... I can't!

  33. Hoops = Sufferin'.

    Sufferin said UNLV will never go to NCAAs with Kruger.

    UNLV has appeared in 3 of last 4 NCAAs = Hoops (err, Sufferin') being proved wrong over and over again.

    sct2k6, he is high on Polee because UNLV is not going to get Polee, thus, this is all positioned to give him ammo. He is so predictable. He is setting up his arguments after the other ones have all been shot down. It's getting comical.

    The more success the program enjoys (and it's been a fun last four years), the harder he scrambles - like calling a 25-win season, being in the Top 25 and a trip to the NCAAs a bad season.

    His virtual persona was established as anti-Kruger. Thus, reality to him has become subjective to try to prove the point he was wrong on some 6 years ago.

    It's sad, yet comical. Sad to know he is a angry dude. Comical to seem him proved wrong time and time again.


  34. sct2k6

    Polee's upside...

    I wouldn't be surprised either if Loyd did go to another school other than UNLV. He will look at this team and see we don't need another guard at this point. But, Kruger can't do anything else..he's reaching at this point.

    We need another big man..

  35. VegasNative57

    Excellent job on analyzing Poops and his "critical analysis of UNLV Basketball". I could not have said it better.

  36. Vegasnative57,

    I'm not Sufferin' that guy hates this team and will say anything to try and tear the team down. He's not a fan.

    I'm a fan thats just tired of waiting for a NCAA Championship. I also feel Kruger has taken the program as far as it will go. He is a good X and O's guy and a good man. He does more with less than I have ever seen!

    Kruger just can't get the top recruits to come here. You can't do everything good and his achilles heel is recruiting.

    If UNLV and the fans really want to win a NCAA Championship things are going to need to change. We may need someone else to take us to the next level.

    I hope I'm wrong but I don't like what I'm seeing with who we have coming in and the talent level.

  37. I wonder how good a recruiter Reggie Theus was at NM State? Seems like he turned a program around and got some great players pretty fast.

    Interesting... :)

  38. Poops-

    Polee is a great athlete 6-7 w/ 40in vertical and will most likely improve his game. He would be a great fit for UNLV. I really have a difficult time following your logic because you hate Kruger for not getting 4-5 star recruits and Polee is only a 3 star. Most of the top 25 teams know Polee from the AAU circuit and do not see that upside to offer a spot. If Polee had signed with UNLV with no problem you would be bagging on Kruger for settling on a 3 star recruit that no one else wanted. Do you see the issues that arise with your logic.

  39. Poops-

    Theus made the tourney once and recruited mostly 2-3 stars during his short time at NM State ...Intersting

  40. Nooooooo, sct2k6

    I like the up-side of Polee. Polee came on late and didn't get to be a 4-5 star.

    Hey, I like Kruger.... doesn't mean he walks on water and I'm not affraid of being critical and I don't keep my head up my @$$

    I just feel the team has peaked under Kruger and it's do to the recruiting.

    We can go round and round on this and I can keep hammering away at this point all night but I won't.

    I just want to win a NCAA CHAMPIONSHIP or at least to win the Mtn West and get to the final four.

  41. I would like to see more size and athleticism on the team, but I am not convinced that Polee will be an impact player next year wherever he goes. I certainly would be excited if he came to UNLV, but outside of his athleticism, I haven't seen anything in his game that makes me think he would get major minutes next year.

    Loyd has the skills to get on the court. I wouldn't discount him just on his size. He could be a Nate Robinson type player.

  42. Yeah and Theus did that in Las Cruces. That says something.

    A great job in a small city in NM. If you have been to Las Cruces you'll know what I'm saying.

    Great job in recruiting in a place that can't hold a candle to Las Vegas....

  43. Hoops you are sufferin stop denying it. Sufferin was the only one who was ever mentioning Theus & now out of the blue he is mentioned again..hummm.... Your posts are just like your game, you have no ball IQ or skills...

  44. Poops-

    So we should fire Kruger because as coach of UNLV we have not gone to the final four or won a NCAA Championship. Let us play imaginationland where their are gumdrops on trees, soda in fountains, and gold paved roads- Who would you replace Kruger with to take us to the promise land?

  45. We all know you are sufferin hoops. Same logic and obbsession with Theus

  46. sct2k6,

    Never said to replace Kruger. He is a good coach. I did say he has a problem recruiting great players coming out of HS.

    The program is reaching a stand still because we're not getting the 4-5 star recruits. If this continues we will never win a NCAA Championship. We also are losing the recruiting battle to other teams in the Mtn West.

    If things don't change then we have to look at what is needed to get the program to the next level.

  47. Just tired of waiting for a NCAA Championship and not affraid of being critical.

    Sorry, you don't have the brains or stones to understand or do that.


  48. @Hoops

    Looks like we just added Wisconsin to our home schedule on Nov. 20

    Also, the addition of four and five star recruits does not guarantee National Championships... Butler got the National Championship game without a practice facility, athletic dorms, a modern arena, McDonald's All-Americans, five-star recruits, or even four-star recruits.

    The idea that UNLV needs to recruit four and five star athletes to win a National Championship is just silly. Sure it might improve our chances, but who's to say the players will even live up to the hype?

    And for some reason you keep ignoring the fact that Kruger already has a four star recruit (Grandy Glaze) committed to play for UNLV during the 2011-2012 season.

  49. just checked my source and yes this "HOOPS" character is "SufferinSuccawiener". "hoops/sufferin" just created his 9th account on 4/22/10 because he knows everyone hates him and he has no credibility, which within a week he has already lost all credibility with his new handle. So hoops/sufferin why dont you go play on the 95 in rush hour traffic.

    So the news is in that Michael Loyd Jr.(j loyds older bro) is transferring from BYU. He's gonna be going wherever his younger bro ends up signing. So UNLV may be getting both the Loyd brothers.

    As far as not getting big guys, well we already have Massamba(6'10") and if he progresses the way he did from freshman year to sophmore year he will be a monster next year. Lopez(6'11") will be very good next year and QT(6'8") will definatly be a monster next year. I see Kruger heavily recruiting some big guys next season, if not then i'll trust that he'll have something up his sleeve but for the next couple years we'll be much better at the 4 and 5 then in the past.

  50. Poops

    Big difference between being critical or ignorant, senile, or suffering from dementia. Jury is still out on which one. I believe its probably just ignorance.

    Sorry you have the rare combination of low b-ball IQ and stones that enable you to write comical posts.

    until you post again...

  51. Interesting discussion. I'll just point out a few factual tidbits. All the info regarding recruits and their stars came from scout.com:

    Since 2006, only three 4-star, non-transfer recruits have played for UNLV.

    In that same span, New Mexico, BYU, and San Diego State have combined to put a total of two 4-star, non-transfer recruits.

    The recruits: Marcus Lawrence, Beas Hamga, Anthony Marshall, Kawhi Leonard, and Philip McDonald.

    BYU and New Mexico each have one 4-star recruit for the class of 2010.

    What does it all mean? First, that stars mean very little. Leonard and Marshall are studs. McDonald is a solid player. Hamga and Lawrence were busts.

    UNLV is recruiting high school players just as well, if not better, than any other team in the MWC. Add the 'retreads' and the collection of talent is arguably the best in the conference.

    Winning another national championship is highly unlikely. Sometimes, however, a very well coached team of solid, under-the-radar recruits can do pretty well.

    Last fun fact:

    The University of Butler Bulldogs just played in the National Championship game with a roster full of mostly 2-star recruits, for what it's worth.

  52. Another of the long list of "screw ups" by the current UNLV basketball program....for one thing this kids been waiting for a scholarship offer for 2-3 years from UNLV and his father was a player on UNLV's basketball team already and the kid is known around the gym already, why should he have to wait around for a last minute scholarship offer?... UNLV is blowing off top local recruits all over Las Vegas, like the point guard who played well in the NCAA's for BYU and Brooks who now is in the NBA.....trust me thre are enough ballers right here in Vegas to help elevate the Rebels less than top rate program...

  53. IncognitoRebel-

    I also read M. Loyd jr. is leaving BYU. He used his redshirt year so he only has 1 year left in D-1. It will be interesting to see where he lands. I dont really see us taking both Loyds. Oregon may be in a better situation to take them both but not us. Dont get me wrong - he is very good and would help but dont see them both fiting in at UNLV. I have a feeling they may be heading to Oregon with a wide open playing time under a new coach.

  54. Kckool11-

    you are right - we should at the very least be landing the top recruits in Las Vegas. This should never be overlooked. Where would we have been this year without Anthony Marshal. He really stepped up big when Jasper went down and got valuable experience.

  55. Local recruits? The reason we waited on Loyd was because we were heavily recruiting Corey Joseph from Findley Prep (local). Get a clue

  56. Vegas ballers can hang with anybody in the country. There is a lot of excellent talent in this city particularly at the 1,2,& 3 spots. If UNLV were to get at least 1 top local player every year they would be doing just fine.

    I really feel Loyd would be a much better fit for this program immediately and the years to come over Polee. For Loyd I think it all depends on how much PT he wants & will get right away. At Oregon my guess is 25+ minutes a game, at UNLV 10+ minutes right away IMO.

  57. To the idiot that says Kruger can't get a 4* or 5* kid and his pal Hoops(probably one in the same). Wink Adams4-5*, Grandy Glaze 4*, Anthony Marshall 4* recruits out of high school. I love the fact that hoops thinks New Mexico has an awesome recruiting class, when they are all 3* players, but if we get a 3* player Kruger can't recruit. Dear idiot I am going to give you some numbers 103-35, Kruger's record over the last 4 years. Also notice that I didn't include transfers: Jasper 4*, Stanback 4*, Thomas 4*. Where is your mind? Moser 4* washed up player on a bad team? No, the team wasn't bad, Howland's playing style is bad, the chemistry is bad. This kid is being hounded right now by Ohio State, which has the best recruiting class in the country this year, to visit before he enrolls at UNLV. Just for your tiny mind there are no letter of intents for transfers. Ohio State even told the kid if you won't come here for a visit, we'll come to you. That is how much they think of him, but then again your the coach for??which couch?? A real Dumass.

    If you look at UCLA's recruiting they ahave a lot of 4* to 5* players, but I guess your a genius that can judge a player by the 4.7 minutes he played as a freshman. The reason that UCLA so called sucked(by the way they beat Cal, Washington, and AZ State) is because of all the players leaving the program. They will be very good. They were bad because of a lot of the players were new. Washington kicked the living crud out of your favorite New Mexico hobo team in the tourney as a reminder to how great your NM Hobo's were. Your an idiot. Stay thirsty young man and continue to kill the last 3 brain cells you have. By the way Rivals final rankings came out and your favorite star Hobo recruit was number 116, oooohhh 3 stars oooohhh, we're scared. Lopez was 108 when he came out, but you praise the mighty 116 over the 108. Go figure.

  58. By the way if you can read Lloyd was recruited by Oklahoma, Michigan State, Northwestern, George Washington, Florida State, Oregon, and UNLV. I am sure there were many more as he tore it up in the tourneys the last few weeks. I guess your smarter than all these D-1 coaches making bank coaching. You have zero clue.

  59. @go_rebels

    Don't stop now...that is some good a$$ kicking on old Sufferin Bob. Don't forget about how wonderful Bubble Bob did on this years bubble predictions...

    He was very good for BYU at the end of the year, maybe UNLV can pick him up as well!

  61. I'm of the opinion that we don't really need Lloyd Jr. (either of them). It would be nice to have them, sure, but its my opinion that we've already got a team full of guards:
    Oscar Bellfield
    Justin Hawkins
    Derrick Jasper
    Anthony Marshall
    Kendall Wallace
    Tre'Von Willis

    I think Michael Lloyd is headed to the Pac10, along with Johnathon. Just my 2 cents.

    And I'm still pissed about the atrocious home OoC schedule.

  62. We don't really need him. After all, THREE of those guys on your list are gone after next year. And there is no correlation between good guard play and winning in March.

  63. Except remember that Oscar will be a Junior and Wallace, Willis, and Jasper will be Seniors next year. We need to look more to the 11-12 season.

    Marshall is sick, but Hawkins has some work to do, and he is not that tall either. I think he has a great attitude and work ethic, but sometimes natural born talent trumps those. I would like to get Johnathan Llyod, he would be a great athlete who is more of a pure pg. Him and Marshall running the 1 and 2 spots in 3 years would be a nasty starting guard combo. Both Las Vegas products, both Gatorade Nevada POY. I think it would pack the mack, and they are 2 gifted athletes.

  64. I've seen Dwayne Polee play before- his name was Chris Richardson!!

  65. You cannot win anything in march without stellar guard play... You dont win in the NBA playoffs without stellar guard play, you dont win any games of basketball without stellar guard play. Go ahead and pass on Loyd!!

  66. Yeah we are loaded with guards next year, but we need guards for the following year. At this point, OB is the only true point guard on the team. Marshall did a admirable job for his first year when he cam in, but he is better off the ball. Look at Tre' after he was moved to the 2. We lose Tre, Jasper, and Wallace next season and OB will be a senior after next year.
    There no dispute that we could use help down low. NEWS FLASH so does every other team in the MWC, and most of the country for that matter. The game of college basketball involves much more skill now than it did 20 years ago. You can't just be a big body and be sucessfull anymore. Your have to be able to handle, defend the wing, and shoot from a good range at the 4 now.
    Loyd is a quality recruit and Rebel fans should be happy if he decides to enroll here.

  67. Wispy made great comments on recruiting. I'll add that UNLV was in the running late for some highly rated prospects. Cory Joseph, Renardo Sidney (dodged a bullet there) had UNLV on a short list late, Hamga was a 5 star recruit, and Shabazz Muhammed is considered to be the best prospect of his class by some. Say what you want about Hamga, Kruger saw potential, just like all the major scouting services and top programs, his problem was his attitude and ability to learn. Point is Kruger is recruiting high school player at least as good or better than the rest of the MWC.

  68. Chump, add Deshawn Mitchell and Patrick Savoy to the list.

    Polee will be a bust at St. Johns are wherever he goes. Then we will sign him when he transfers.

    I think Moser will be a bust, but now that he is coming to UNLV, I will hope that I'm wrong and apologizing later.

  69. I was critical on Kruger in the past but I cannot really knock him. How many 4 star recruits do we have on this team right now? I dont care if they did transfer here, they are on the team now. The point is you never know how a recruit is going to develope, some make the stride and others bust. Heck a no star or 2-3 star recruit can turn into a lottery pick while the 5 star ends up like Hamga. As long as the potential is there to make a run in March that's all we can ask for as fans & that's where we are with this team.

  70. It's funny how this article was about J Loyd and his college recruitment, and all everyone talks about is his size and how Kruger is awful. How about talking about his GAME. I've watched J Loyd the last two years play for Gorman. They played a tougher schedule then 90% of the High School teams in the country. Funny how they won back-two-back state championships with a "little" point guard. I know they had good players around him. He made everyone around him better. Everytime Gorman won a tournament who was the tournament MVP the last 2 years. Check it out it was the smallest player on the court--J Loyd. The guy comes up big, game in and game out. Wherever he goes he will be a winner. Case closed. I would love to see him stay in Vegas, but I wish him all the best whatever he decides.

    PS--If you stay in Vegas see if Coach Hauck could use some help with punt returns.

  71. Sorry if someone else said it and I missed it, but college ball is widely acknowledged to be a guards game. From my view, we need (1) a winner at the point and (2) an effective penetrator who can create and soften the wings. Oscar, no doubt partly due to injury, has not consistently brought those things to the table.
    What I am not familiar with is his outside shot, but if it is reasonably good, it will get better with practice. I want Lloyd here at UNLV. I love the excitement his brother with a similar game brought to BYU, and I think the Rebel faithful will love this guy!!

  72. what about a Lyod Brother combo at UNLV for one year? Oh and all you so called fans that bash on KRuger and the team, dont even bother buying tickets for next year, we dont want you. Dont critique a team that over preformed and that next year looks to be unstopable in the MWC. No way does anyone challenge us this season, BYU is going to be in shambles, SDSU looses a lot of Experience, and UNM probably wont be as good as they were this year. Looking forward to painting my face again and a UNLV championship run. Go Rebels and back to Reno all you Kruger and Rebel Haters!

  73. UNLV certainly has the better program but Oregon certainly has a true college experience.

  74. Thanks Lenny, what a douche bag....

  75. Waiting on a 5 8' guard when your team can't rebound and doesn't have a inside game and has a bunch of guards.

    This is a classic example of UNLV taking anyone it can get because of Kruger and staffs crap recruiting. Kruger and companies lack of doing there homework, making phone calls, knocking on doors and kissing babies...lol

    Get off the golf course Kruger and get the guys we need to get to the next level!

  76. The shtick is old hoops. It's like you have turrets but instead of saying curse words you uncontrollably type ignorant posts on Kruger and UNLV. Find a hobby because your comments are played out.

  77. ahhhhhh.... how the truth hurts.. lol

  78. This really is toooooooo funny... wait to this kid kicks the program to the curb as well. Another soild kid coming out of HS that doesn't wanna come here but always a retread right?

    I really hope he doesn't. We should save the scholarship for next year and try to get bigger. We don't need a 5 8' guard. I mean really.

    Ya have to admit this sh$%ts as funny as hell.

  79. He is going to Oregon.

  80. recruiting: Process of identifying and hiring best-qualified candidate

    Not a 5 8' guard on a team that's guard loaded.

    UNLV Basketball is becoming the "Island of Misfit Toys" cast-offs, rejects, drifters etc. With a few good players mixed in..lol

    This is the best Kruger can do? Just a good team that will be nothing more than a good team.

    Kruger, get some solid big men coming out of HS who can flat out ball. Guys who can play above the rim, play smash mouth basketball and block shots in the 4 and 5 spot.

    Not rejects and 5 8' guards. Recruit and address what the team needs.